The batter attempts to bunt with 2 strikes but POPS it up

[btdt]

"Is the batter out because he bunts foul (dead ball and F2 can't try to eliminate R1 on first base)"

I have never heard of dead ball on third strike, foul bunt.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by btdt

"Is the batter out because he bunts foul (dead ball and F2 can't try to eliminate R1 on first base)"

I have never heard of dead ball on third strike, foul bunt.

What!?

That's the rule in all codes (I suppose there might be some very-young-youth rule that has something different).

It's a dead ball becasue it's foul. (I assume we're NOT talking about the caught ball here). It's an out to stop the batter from continually bunting foul to tire the pitcher.

[btdt]

Dead because foul.
That makes sense.
I have probably called it 50 times and it just never registered what I just did.
Too simple

[MikeStrybel]

This question was on the NCAA test. My immediate thought is that the batter is out and the ball is dead the second the catcher touches it. Runners cannot advance and must return. Penalties in baseball are designed to punish the person/team at fault - in this case, the batter.

If the catcher had not caught the ball the result would still be the same, right?

I answered it this way. If it was wrong I'll know in a couple days. Good luck.

[johnnyg08]

No catch, it's a strike out. Catch, runner can retouch and attempt to advance. I think you're thinking too much about penalty versus just watching baseball and letting it happened.

[yawetag]

This is a situation where F2 screwed up by catching the ball. Granted, in most situations, no runner will advance. However, by letting the ball drop foul, the ball's dead and the runners can't advance.

[MikeStrybel]

I have a lote/hate relationship with these questions. I enjoy discussing them but hate seeing them on tests. I appreciate the thoughts but want to ask a couple things:
1) The batted ball is not foul until it is touched while on or over foul terrirtory. By definition, it is a dead ball at the time that happens, right?

2) Yes, I know that a caught fly ball, even foul, is live. But does the bunt attempt supersede it?

2) If that is the case, it is a TOP play, right?

I have pored over J/R and can't find a definitive ruling. Anyone have the EXACT ruling to substantiate our call here?

My test has already been submitted and I passed. My questions are for discussion and improvement only. Thanks again.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

My immediate thought is that the batter is out and the ball is dead the second the catcher touches it. Runners cannot advance and must return. Penalties in baseball are designed to punish the person/team at fault - in this case, the batter.

Using that logic, if you call this a dead ball, you are punishing the defense by preventing them from attempting to get a second out on this play. That's not punishing the batter at all!

[JerzeeRef]

Page 29, College Baseball Rules Study Guide.

Batter is out:

D. With two strikes, he bunts foul (7-11i). If the ball is caught in flight, it remains live; otherwise the ball is dead immediately.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by JerzeeRef

Page 29, College Baseball Rules Study Guide.

Batter is out:

D. With two strikes, he bunts foul (7-11i). If the ball is caught in flight, it remains live; otherwise the ball is dead immediately.

I've been reading that one the last couple of weeks too. Now I have that one and the new BRD to page through...that should tie me over until April when I can start umpiring again and the 4 feet of snow is gone.

[jkumpire]

Originally Posted by JerzeeRef

Page 29, College Baseball Rules Study Guide.

Batter is out:

D. With two strikes, he bunts foul (7-11i). If the ball is caught in flight, it remains live; otherwise the ball is dead immediately.

Sir,

What is the College Baseball Rules Study Guide? Where may I purchase this, or read it on the 'net if it exists there?

Thank you