What was he thinking?

[frozenrope22]

BU was trying to explain the force slide rule by saying he didn't slide but then changed it to he slid late then he slid with his hands up.
My observation is if he was enforcing the slide rule he should have called that at the time of the play at second. Instead after being challenged on the call at first he interjects the slide rule issue. As I said runner clearly out at second and close play at first. It was how he handled the aftermath that I was commenting on.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by frozenrope22

BU was trying to explain the force slide rule by saying he didn't slide but then changed it to he slid late then he slid with his hands up.
My observation is if he was enforcing the slide rule he should have called that at the time of the play at second. Instead after being challenged on the call at first he interjects the slide rule issue. As I said runner clearly out at second and close play at first. It was how he handled the aftermath that I was commenting on.

There is no such thing as a "force slide rule." This is what give some the opinon the a slide is required.

There is, however, a "force play slide rule."

No one is ever required "forced" to slide.

[frozenrope22]

Not exactly sure what I need a refresher on unless the FPSR is in fact a delayed call. If that is the case then what should have been the mechanics for calling it?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by frozenrope22

Not exactly sure what I need a refresher on unless the FPSR is in fact a delayed call. If that is the case then what should have been the mechanics for calling it?

BU can make the call if he sees it. PU can make the call if BU has turned toward first. Either should call it as soon as it happens, and not wait for the result of the play at first.

[PeteBooth]

if IN FACT R1 violated the FPSR then the call is made IMMEDIATELY not retroactively.

The BU or PU would say

1. TIME
2. That's Interference
3. R1 and the BR are out
4. Other runners return to TOP bases which in this case is moot because it was a game ender.

As another poster eluded to "on the surface" it sounds as if the BU was trying to cover his a** when the coach questioned him.

Pete Booth

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Quite an interesting observation, seeing as how the FPSR call is NOT the BU's call! This belongs to the PU as the BU is supposed to be setting up for the play at 1st on the DP.

So not only does the umpire crew need a refresher, so do you!

If you're implying that NOT means NEVER, well, that's just wrong. A refresher might just be up your alley, also.

[JJ]

The BU can make the call if the pivot man doesn't make a throw - since the BU's eyes follow the ball, if the ball is never thrown to first base he'll still be watching the play at second, and should have a better look at the slide than the PU.
Never say never...

JJ

[dash_riprock]

Either ump can call it, although if I'm PU, and my partner is looking right at it and doesn't call it, I'll most likely pass on it as well.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Therefore, on the DP, the interference at the first attempt (in this case 2nd base) is the PU's call because the BU is heading to and focusing on the 2nd attempt (in this case 1st base).

Now, the rest of you losers split all the hairs you want, but unless you have eyes in the back of you damn heads, you aint calling any interference at 2nd on a DP.

Not necessarily.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Therefore, on the DP, the interference at the first attempt (in this case 2nd base) is the PU's call because the BU is heading to and focusing on the 2nd attempt (in this case 1st base).

BU should not move his focus of the play at 2B until the ball is being released by the fielder to 1B. If the ball is never released, BU has the chance to see any INT at 2B; if the ball is thrown, the call can only be PU's.

If you're turning your focus away from 2B before the ball is released, you're going to miss something eventually.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I love how some of you like to split hairs and it would be a lot of fun if you knew what you were talking about!

We are talking about a DP and a DP means there is an out attempt at one base followed by a second attempt at another base.

So if there is enough interference on the 1st play that the defense doesn't throw the damn ball, we don't have a DP, now do we? So obviously, the call is made by the BU, my fine, feathered idiots!

Therefore, on the DP, the interference at the first attempt (in this case 2nd base) is the PU's call because the BU is heading to and focusing on the 2nd attempt (in this case 1st base).

Now, the rest of you losers split all the hairs you want, but unless you have eyes in the back of you damn heads, you aint calling any interference at 2nd on a DP.

OK. You're the boss. As for me, I'll continue to be a fine, feathered idiot. And right.
JJ

[MrUmpire]

Did some loon steal Ozzy's login and password?

[JJ]

jj

[ozzy6900]

I've returned....The REAL me.

Moderator, please lock this thread.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Did some loon steal Ozzy's login and password?

Not very likely at all....

If some loon did do as you suggest, then the loon whose login and password were stolen could have gone in and deleted any and all posts that are attributed to said loon. Then the simple thing to do after that is to change one's password.

The title of this thread, "What Was He Thinking?", is appropriate to say the very least. It should be changed to, "What the Funk Was He Saying?"

It looks like someone is having crow for Thanksgiving. A little gravy will help wash down the wild taste....