batting out of order 2

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

No. If the appeal is while Abel is at the plate you just replace him with Daffy who assumes the count.

Not before Abel has taken a pitch, which is what I was referring to (as was the OP).

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not before Abel has taken a pitch, which is what I was referring to (as was the OP).

I guess I don't grasp your point. Daffy has become the proper batter. Therefore as long as he's put up to bat at any time before Abel or Charlie (or Smith for that matter) completes the current slot's AB things are Kosher. mbyron made the same point.

[ManInBlue]

Rich,

I think the issue is that Baker was now BOO because Charlie is now legal. An appeal prior to a pitch to Abel would have Danny called out (b/c of Baker's BOO) and Ed up to bat - Baker removed from the bases, Charlie returned to his previous base. Abel doesn't come into the play (until a pitch is delivered to him).

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

Rich,

I think the issue is that Baker was now BOO because Charlie is now legal. An appeal prior to a pitch to Abel would have Danny called out (b/c of Baker's BOO) and Ed up to bat - Baker removed from the bases, Charlie returned to his previous base. Abel doesn't come into the play (until a pitch is delivered to him).

Got what you meant now.

The Order was A, B, C, D, E, F

They batted C, B and both got on base. But as the pitch to B legitimized C, D was the real proper batter due up, not B.

If you appeal immediately, D (the proper batter) is out, B is removed from the bases, C returns, E should be up.

If A goes to the plate and a pitch is delivered, then B is legitimized, C should be up but he's on base, so D is up. And because the at bat isn't completed you just send him up with the count A had before the appeal.

AND the real order is still A, B, C, D, E etc. and you have to follow it next time through.

[BSUmp16]

And in FED all outs stand (I get it!)

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

And in FED all outs stand (I get it!)

Gotta love it.

[GoodwillRef]

Wow, where do all of you work that we have two batting out of order posts in a week. I may have had this twice in 20 years of umpiring.