batting out of order 2
Hi,
This did'nt happen in my game but another umpire told me it happened in his game. OBR rules Batters 1 and 3 get reversed 1) B1 gets on base 2) B2 gets on base 3) B3 comes to plate no pitch thrown yet then scorekeeper raises the question that B1 and B3 are switched How would you get this cleaned up? or Since B2 made B1 legal,does the order stay as is? I tried to find a scenario in the BOO section of the rule book but I can't really find anything to cover this BOO. WilliamK |
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B4 should be out on appeal since he should have been the proper batter. |
What you do is tell the scorekeeper to shut up, and let the game continue.
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Charlie bats (when Abel should have) and gets on base. Baker bats and gets on base. Once a pitch was thrown to Baker, Charlie is legal... making the proper batter right now Daffy. Abel comes to the plate - an appeal on BOO right now would have Daffy out for not batting, and Ed up to bat next. Although the actual correct answer here was supplied by kyle. Unless this is appealed BY A COACH, play on. Scorekeepers are fans and bystanders. If Abel is pitched to, Baker becomes legal and assuming Charlie is still on base, Daffy is brought to the plate. |
Kyle is correct to shut the scorekeeper up, but if coach appeals...
pg. 56 rule 6.07 at the bottom of approved ruling.. RULING: When the proper batter is on base, he is passed over, and the following batter becomes the proper batter So B4 hits, (the real B1 doesnt hit, nor is he out) and next time around the order would go back to whats on line up card. |
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Charlie bats first and reaches base. Baker bats next, and the first pitch to him makes Charlie's at-bat proper. Baker reaches base. The OP says that Able comes up next and the scorekeeper announces BOO before a pitch to him. (I agree with the consensus to shut up the scorekeeper.) If a coach appeals at this point, he's right on time. The proper second batter was not Baker but Danny. So: 1. Danny, the proper batter for the spot where Baker batted, is out. 2. Remove Baker from base, but he's not out. 3. If Charlie's advance was due to Baker's at bat (not from a wild pitch, steal, etc.), he returns to 1B. 4. Since Danny made the last out, the next batter is Eddy. |
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If Able is at the plate, he gets to sit, and Danny comes to the plate and inherits Able's count (1-0 or 0-1 after one pitch). Nobody's out in this situation, and no runners are removed; the coach was 1 pitch too late to appeal BOO. I think that's what you said. :) |
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Rich,
I think the issue is that Baker was now BOO because Charlie is now legal. An appeal prior to a pitch to Abel would have Danny called out (b/c of Baker's BOO) and Ed up to bat - Baker removed from the bases, Charlie returned to his previous base. Abel doesn't come into the play (until a pitch is delivered to him). |
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The Order was A, B, C, D, E, F They batted C, B and both got on base. But as the pitch to B legitimized C, D was the real proper batter due up, not B. If you appeal immediately, D (the proper batter) is out, B is removed from the bases, C returns, E should be up. If A goes to the plate and a pitch is delivered, then B is legitimized, C should be up but he's on base, so D is up. And because the at bat isn't completed you just send him up with the count A had before the appeal. AND the real order is still A, B, C, D, E etc. and you have to follow it next time through. |
And in FED all outs stand (I get it!)
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