Keeping the count.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jicecone

And that is why learning to keep the count mentally keeps you more tuned into the game both on the bases and at the plate.

I have corrected several times, plate officials that have an indicator.

As have I. But first I let the participants get the PU's count. I could be wrong, too, and I'd rather the official word come from the plate. I am there in case the plate guy needs help or has a question.

[LMan]

An indicator is a tool, and as such it can be abused like anything else. If you can't use it properly, don't use it.

But I don't think that rises (descends?) to the level of a 'crutch' as a general category. Some use them, some don't, some well, some poorly. To each his own. My suggestion is to save your condescension for something that matters

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by LMan

An indicator is a tool, and as such it can be abused like anything else. If you can't use it properly, don't use it.

But I don't think that rises (descends?) to the level of a 'crutch' as a general category. Some use them, some don't, some well, some poorly. To each his own. My suggestion is to save your condescension for something that matters

A little over sensitive here , are we?

Usually "To each his own," is not follwed up with a condesending suggestion either.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by jicecone

A little over sensitive here , are we?

Usually "To each his own," is not follwed up with a condesending suggestion either.

Sorry, not tracking any further objectionable comment on my part. I just don't think that umpires who choose not to use an indicator are automatically superior to those who do; but you would certainly think so from the tone of many of the 'nots'

Some carry on like they just broke a two-decade coke habit or something.....brings to mind the old saw 'there's nothing as virtuous as a reformed whore.'

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by LMan

Sorry, not tracking any further objectionable comment on my part. I just don't think that umpires who choose not to use an indicator are automatically superior to those who do; but you would certainly think so from the tone of many of the 'nots'

Some carry on like they just broke a two-decade coke habit or something.....brings to mind the old saw 'there's nothing as virtuous as a reformed whore.'

Your absolutely right, and if my use of "crutch" came across as arrogant, then I aboslutely made a bad choice in words.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by LMan

An indicator is a tool, and as such it can be abused like anything else. If you can't use it properly, don't use it.

But I don't think that rises (descends?) to the level of a 'crutch' as a general category. Some use them, some don't, some well, some poorly. To each his own. My suggestion is to save your condescension for something that matters

If you can't learn to use an indicator you probably shouldn't be behind to the plate trying to judge if that curve ball just hit the outside corner or not.