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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 11:53am
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If you can watch the real time video from 100 feet away and tell me that you are 100% sure he missed the base I will agree with you. But after watching the play in slow motion I still can't tell if he touched it our not...it is that close.
I get your point, but neither camera angle was from the same angle as Layne so it's an unfair comparison. I can't tell from the camera angles either, but Layne was in proper position to see the touch/miss. Was there another place he could've been to still see the touch at home plate? I don't know 4 man mechanics.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 11:55am
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I get your point, but neither camera angle was from the same angle as Layne so it's an unfair comparison. I can't tell from the camera angles either, but Layne was in proper position to see the touch/miss. Was there another place he could've been to still see the touch at home plate? I don't know 4 man mechanics.
I think Layne was in the proper spot and the 2nd base umpire had the batter-runner going into 2nd.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:01pm
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Obviously the replay angles we have don't show squat, and would not overturn this call no matter what direction the call went.

Consider this, however... how often do you see players in MLB throw to a base to appeal a missed base? Leaving early - yes, occasionally... but missed base - dang near never. So it must have been apparent from OTHER angles as well that the base was missed - or the defense wouldn't have bothered.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:19pm
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Obviously the replay angles we have don't show squat, and would not overturn this call no matter what direction the call went.

Consider this, however... how often do you see players in MLB throw to a base to appeal a missed base? Leaving early - yes, occasionally... but missed base - dang near never. So it must have been apparent from OTHER angles as well that the base was missed - or the defense wouldn't have bothered.
What do the Diamondbacks have to lose...another game?
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:21pm
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Heck against the 1st place team, they have nothing to lose, but they're not going to waste their time either.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:45pm
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Heck against the 1st place team, they have nothing to lose, but they're not going to waste their time either.
Funny!
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 09:47pm
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I think Layne was in the proper spot and the 2nd base umpire had the batter-runner going into 2nd.
Well and the simple fact that the play was appealed means that someone else saw him miss it as well. MLB is not in the habit of making appeals unless someone on the field or a dugout spy saw the miss pretty obviously.

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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 10:25pm
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Well and the simple fact that the play was appealed means that someone else saw him miss it as well. MLB is not in the habit of making appeals unless someone on the field or a dugout spy saw the miss pretty obviously.

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