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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 11:35am
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The 3rd base umpire went out to rule on a possible fan interference call...Layne was at the plate.

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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 11:51am
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The 3rd base umpire went out to rule on a possible fan interference call...Layne was at the plate.

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Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CIN@ARI: Janish's homer puts Cincy on top in seventh - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
Both reply angles were horrible, one from the foul side of third and the other from first. Neither could show a miss less than a foot.

However, Layne had the view straight up the baseline and saw the miss clearly. He apparently used the same criteria you use and called the out.

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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:44pm
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The 3rd base umpire went out to rule on a possible fan interference call...Layne was at the plate.

Here is he video:

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CIN@ARI: Janish's homer puts Cincy on top in seventh - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
I'm sorry, but from where I was sitting, it's clear to me that he missed the bag. He kicked up dirt with the foot in question, the bag never moved, and if you look at the angle, Lane had the best seat in the house, even though he was at home. I agree - He could have made the call from 120 feet away.
Question though - in 4-man, when U3 went out, wasn't Lane supposed to rotate up to 3rd, and U1 rotate down to home? Maybe, b/c there was no play at 3rd, he just didn't bother?
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I'm sorry, but from where I was sitting, it's clear to me that he missed the bag. He kicked up dirt with the foot in question, the bag never moved, and if you look at the angle, Lane had the best seat in the house, even though he was at home. I agree - He could have made the call from 120 feet away.
Question though - in 4-man, when U3 went out, wasn't Lane supposed to rotate up to 3rd, and U1 rotate down to home? Maybe, b/c there was no play at 3rd, he just didn't bother?
I also looks like the side of his foot may have hit the bag.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 12:47pm
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I'm sorry, but from where I was sitting, it's clear to me that he missed the bag. He kicked up dirt with the foot in question, the bag never moved, and if you look at the angle, Lane had the best seat in the house, even though he was at home. I agree - He could have made the call from 120 feet away.
Question though - in 4-man, when U3 went out, wasn't Lane supposed to rotate up to 3rd, and U1 rotate down to home? Maybe, b/c there was no play at 3rd, he just didn't bother?
I also thought that Layne should have rolled up to third and had the 1st base ump roll home...I maybe wrong.
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I'm sorry, but from where I was sitting, it's clear to me that he missed the bag. He kicked up dirt with the foot in question, the bag never moved, and if you look at the angle, Lane had the best seat in the house, even though he was at home. I agree - He could have made the call from 120 feet away.
Question though - in 4-man, when U3 went out, wasn't Lane supposed to rotate up to 3rd, and U1 rotate down to home? Maybe, b/c there was no play at 3rd, he just didn't bother?
If you watch the video again the 1st base umpire is rolling home and stops when he sees Layne still there.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 02:32pm
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If you watch the video again the 1st base umpire is rolling home and stops when he sees Layne still there.
Yeah, that has to be what happened - Layne decided it was too much trouble b/c there wasn't going to be a play, so he stayed home, and U1 took his cue from that.
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Old Wed Aug 18, 2010, 08:39pm
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Why is this thread even here? The camera angles are clearly . . . unclear. I think he missed the base, given the placement of his foot, but like the Davidson foul ball call, there is no way to tell from the available angles. As GoodwillRef admits. Layne had the best angle, and he was guaran-dang-teed sure the runner missed the bag. No doubt whatsover.

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If this play [had been] reviewed by the NFL it [would] not have been overturned...is the evidence conclusive?
Sheesh. Q.E.D. "Call on the field stands." Runner's out. Thanks for playing. Nothing to see here, citizens, let's move along.
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