what the heck? KC @ Oak 8-3-10

[jwwashburn]

How would anyone know the Preceding Runner was not called Out of the Baseline? Did the umpires say so after the game? the pointing and gesticulating of the Plate Umpire made me thing it was Out of the Baseline. Maybe I am wrong about this.

Whether I am right or wrong, Bill Hohn changed a TAG PLAY after a conference? Since when do umpires huddle to discuss a tag? Which Umpire could have had a better view than Bill "Marlins Fan" Hohn? Without Slow-Mo, I do not see how any other umpire could have convinced him that the Preceding Runner was off the base...In real time, I thought the guy was still on the base, with Slow-Mo, I am pretty sure...but not positive that he was off the base.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

How would anyone know the Preceding Runner was not called Out of the Baseline? Did the umpires say so after the game? the pointing and gesticulating of the Plate Umpire made me thing it was Out of the Baseline. Maybe I am wrong about this.

Whether I am right or wrong, Bill Hohn changed a TAG PLAY after a conference? Since when do umpires huddle to discuss a tag? Which Umpire could have had a better view than Bill "Marlins Fan" Hohn? Without Slow-Mo, I do not see how any other umpire could have convinced him that the Preceding Runner was off the base...In real time, I thought the guy was still on the base, with Slow-Mo, I am pretty sure...but not positive that he was off the base.

There is a picture on one of the forums that shows the preceding runner (Maier) is clearly off the base when tagged. It was when he had went past third base though, so I would think the trailing runner should be out for passing, and the preceding runner should be out on the tag. They royally screwed it up if you ask me.

[DG]

Originally Posted by zm1283

There is a picture on one of the forums that shows the preceding runner (Maier) is clearly off the base when tagged. It was when he had went past third base though, so I would think the trailing runner should be out for passing, and the preceding runner should be out on the tag. They royally screwed it up if you ask me.

I see no passing in this video.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by zm1283

There is a picture on one of the forums that shows the preceding runner (Maier) is clearly off the base when tagged. It was when he had went past third base though, so I would think the trailing runner should be out for passing, and the preceding runner should be out on the tag. They royally screwed it up if you ask me.

Passing?!?!?! Surely you're kidding. You would not call this passing if you saw this on the field, would you?

To be called out for passing a runner, you must be COMPLETELY past the preceding runner with respect to the base you're going to. Any overlap and you're still safe. WRTwhich base do you think the following runner was closer to than the preceding runner?

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Passing?!?!?! Surely you're kidding. You would not call this passing if you saw this on the field, would you?

To be called out for passing a runner, you must be COMPLETELY past the preceding runner with respect to the base you're going to. Any overlap and you're still safe. WRTwhich base do you think the following runner was closer to than the preceding runner?

One of my first thoughts on seeing the video was that R3 had retreated past 3rd towards second while R2 was on third. After watching it again I decided it was movement towards the bench not second, but I definitely see where he's coming from.