Implement a challenge system, MLB

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by mbyron

What about catch/no catch? That's one where replay would be a mess.

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With no runners on, no problem. With runners on, then there could be an issue. But NFL has some situations that aren't reviewable, and any MLB review system would have the same.

Bottom line is any system is better than what we have now.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Bottom line is any system is better than what we have now.

I think it's fine the way it is.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

I think it's fine the way it is.

Agreed.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

I think it's fine the way it is.

Agree, also

[DG]

The commissioner is certainly capable of defining the parameters after getting feedback from Umpires, Players, and Owners. I am pretty sure Jim Joyce would welcome it, if one of those parameters was whether any close play in a perfect game was safe or out, especially the 27th.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DG

The commissioner is certainly capable of defining the parameters after getting feedback from Umpires, Players, and Owners. I am pretty sure Jim Joyce would welcome it, if one of those parameters was whether any close play in a perfect game was safe or out, especially the 27th.

Would everyone like it if the outcome of a game was changed after the fact? What if for argument sake this play took place with a runner on 3rd and the score was 0-0? Would the outcome of the game be something we should overturn because we do not like the result? You say it like the commissioner would be the voice of reasons, when other plays have been. Remember people are upset over the other sports and their systems. I have heard people want to include Passing interference as reviewable under IR rules for the NFL. Where does it stop?

Peace

[DG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Would everyone like it if the outcome of a game was changed after the fact? What if for argument sake this play took place with a runner on 3rd and the score was 0-0? Would the outcome of the game be something we should overturn because we do not like the result? You say it like the commissioner would be the voice of reasons, when other plays have been. Remember people are upset over the other sports and their systems. I have heard people want to include Passing interference as reviewable under IR rules for the NFL. Where does it stop?

Peace

Well let's say it was the 7th game of the World Series and game tied in bottom of the 9th with runner on 3B and this same safe call happens? Yes, the correct outcome of the game, and Series, has not been decided, review, reverse and play on. What do you think Jim Joyce would think about blowing a call that ended the World Series, with a bad call? Or the umpires, players, or owners? Who among us could sleep well for a long time after a blown call that ended the Series in error, or a perfect game?

I said, the commissioner would get feedback from umpires, players and owners, so one should assume any rule change has acceptance. Whatever that is, is where it stops.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by DG

Well let's say it was the 7th game of the World Series and game tied in bottom of the 9th with runner on 3B and this same safe call happens?

Well lets say it's the 7th game of the World Series and game tied in the bottom of the 1st with runner on 3B and the same safe call happens?

Do you review ALL safe/out calls? At any time in any game? Any one of 'em could have a influence on the game, dependant on what occurred after.

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by DG

The commissioner is certainly capable of defining the parameters ....

I'm not sure THIS commissioner is capable of anything.

[rbmartin]

Would you review if a player is actually touching 2nd base when turning a double play? If so, this would be interesting.

[TwoBits]

Read the title of the OP. That answers your question.
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[TheSlav]

who could buzz down on obvious blown calls that can be fixed with minimum or no disruption.

The umps union should be OK with this, it increases jobs 25% and finds a place for the older guys to transition into retirement. Opens things up on the younger minor league guys, who need a pay bump BTW.

The dugouts will crane their necks and look upstairs rather than jaw with the field ump, maybe allowing some time and space for steam to blow off.

A 1-2 challenge per team per game system could work as well under certain circumstances. Balls / Strike No, Questec is grading umps now based on that.

Put some penalty for challenges not overturned so managers don't use them frivolously.

It's hard for me to imagine that a qualified experience ex-MLB ump in place near a replay booth couldn't have at first look, buzzed down and fixed the perfect game fiasco as well as many others.

Some will still get missed, deal with it.

Mark me down in favor of a challenge system + a fifth ump in the booth:

[greymule]

While we're at it, why not an electronic strike zone? Should a team lose the World Series on a 7th-game, 9th-inning called strike on a pitch two inches off the plate? Wouldn't be right.

The PU could still rule on foul balls, checked swings, HBP, balks, etc. (for the time being).

Olympic swimming is timed electronically. Why not sensors in the ball, the bases, the bats, the gloves? Think of the new, fun statistics this would generate: close play out, or CPO, would tabulate the number of times a guy has been out at 1B by less then 0.10 seconds, just as extremely close play out (ECPO) would tabulate the outs by less than 0.03 seconds.

"Tim, if Mike Sample were only a fifth of a second faster to 1B, he'd have 17 more hits this season."

"Thanks, Joe. Very interesting. Let's discuss this for a while."

[MrUmpire]

Wow. Selig didn't reverse the call. Instant replay was not expanded. And yet, the sun continues to rise in the east and baseball games are being played every day.

Who'd have thunk it? 99.9999999999+% of the world has moved on.

[MD Longhorn]

1) Do away with cameras in the tunnels and add a 5th official (for review) to every game. Rotate responsibilities ... 5-man crew.
2) ONE challenge per team - failed challenge = ejection.
3) No more managers/coaches coming out to argue. You want to come out, it's to make a challenge - anything else is quick ejection. Any sustained arguing is a 1 week suspension. (There is NO REASON MLB allows these protracted "Look-at-me" productions from it's coaches. It's asinine).
4) Reviewable items:

Plays at a base or plate where there is no subsequent play and the ball was caught.
Catch/no catch where there is no subsequent play.
Left early / missed base.
Fair ball can be changed to foul (but not vice versa).

Reviews may be initiated by the booth before the next pitch, unless the coach comes out of the dugout for any reason (otherwise, coaches will come out to delay the game to give more time for review).