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[Kevin Finnerty]

That's extra funny, coming from a guy from Texas.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

That's extra funny, coming from a guy from Texas.

I'm not sure what you mean here...

[greymule]

In the interests of fairness, they should go back and look at Larsen's perfect game to determine (a) whether that last pitch was really in the zone and, (b) if it wasn't, whether Dale Mitchell offered.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by greymule

In the interests of fairness, they should go back and look at Larsen's perfect game to determine (a) whether that last pitch was really in the zone and, (b) if it wasn't, whether Dale Mitchell offered.

And while they are at it, let's fix the 1985 World Series too. Or last night's Seattle game for that matter.

[ozzy6900]

How about we all move on, now! What's more important is will this push MLB to implement video replay and make baseball games even longer now?

[MD Longhorn]

Honestly, even though I'm an umpire... I have no problem with them implementing instant replay on some sort of limited "challenge" basis - if each team can only challenge 1 time, for example, then we've only added 3-4 minutes to the game.

One change I'd like to see is finding a way to either let the umpires have much quicker access to the replays (so they don't disappear down a tunnel for 5 minutes), or simply use college football's system and put real (or perhaps EX-) umpires in a booth for this sort of thing. MOST of the time we've seen the replay we need within 30 seconds - that would speed it up a lot.

[greymule]

And while they are at it, let's fix the 1985 World Series too.

And a bunch of others. Before the replay, suspect calls were not verified as missed until the film was developed. For example, in the first inning of the fourth game of the 1960 World Series, Yogi Berra beat a play at 1B but was called out for the third out, which cost the Yankees a run. They lost the game 3-2. When the photographs revealed the blown call the next day, the general attitude of fans and even the Yankees was simply, "It's part of the game."

I don't believe there's a photograph to prove it one way or another, but I suspect that a call (on Joe Pepitone at 1B) in the ninth inning of the fifth game in 1964 cost the Yankees the game (and thus the series).

I can't remember which series it was—probably early 1950s—but a runner beats a force play at 3B by what looks like almost a full second, while the narrator says, ". . . and he's . . . out on a close play at 3B!" Meanwhile, you see the 3B coach blow a gasket and set a high jump record.

In 1969, I came in to relieve in the bottom of the 10th of the NBC state championship game. Runners were on 1B and 2B with none out. Their pitcher tried three times to bunt the runners over but struck out. The next guy hit a ball back to me on one hop. I threw to 3B for the second out, and the throw to 1B got the runner by three steps. Had the BU made no call at all, the teams would have changed sides without pausing. However, he called, "Safe!" and everybody on the field froze. There wasn't a lot of screaming, because we were all just plain stunned and wanted to know why "safe." The BU said he couldn't see the play because the sun was in his eyes. (I cannot explain why the PU didn't get involved at that point. I just don't remember.)

Yes, the next guy got a hit and sent us home. Oddly, through the years we have all remembered that call humorously rather than angrily.

[DG]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

How about we all move on, now! What's more important is will this push MLB to implement video replay and make baseball games even longer now?

This review would have taken less than a minute and the game would have been shortened because we would not have another batter. Making games longer is a poor argument for not wanting replay. I am sure the fans would rather get the important calls right.

It will push MLB to more replay. I think Joyce would vote for it and the players union would also, given this new situation.

[DG]

Was it last year that Selig decreed that a WS game would not be called due to rain. I believe it was raining cats and dogs until the home team tied the score and then it was suspended.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

And while they are at it, let's fix the 1985 World Series too. Or last night's Seattle game for that matter.

I am a huge Cards fan....and I've heard others say this very thing on talk radio and such. It's a completely different situation.

And, I agree with the decision by the commish not to change the Galarraga call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I am a huge Cards fan....and I've heard others say this very thing on talk radio and such. It's a completely different situation.

And, I agree with the decision by the commish not to change the Galarraga call.

This is the same thing. You cannot go back and change history arbitrary because you do not like the outcome. And if you have a commissioner do this once, we will have other situations there will be a cry for this. Galarraga pitched to another batter after this play. Do we just act like that did not happen? Even if they institute replay now, they are not going to do it in all situations and people will then cry for outcomes to be changed when the evidence shows there was a mistake.

And in the 1985 World Series that was supposed to be the first in the 9th inning of Game 6. If the Cards did not implode during Game 7 we would hardly remember this event.

Peace

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'm not sure what you mean here...

I think he means that all Californians are dandies that ride sidesaddle.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I think he means that all Californians are dandies that ride sidesaddle.

Man, what is with you lately? You're making me laugh right OL!!!

[briancurtin]

Geez, you'd think it was January based on this thread.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I think he means that all Californians are dandies that ride sidesaddle.

It's hard to imagine how or why a Texan would start to make fun of where other people are from. ... A Texan.

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