Ozzie's at it again.....

[bas2456]

What about the shooing-away of Ozzie? I think that's where his fine comes in. There's no way I ever want to be caught shooing away a coach like that. I speak from basketball experience, but I would think that this applies to all sports, doesn't matter if it's cheerleading or basketball. It just looks ridiculously unprofessional.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bas2456

What about the shooing-away of Ozzie? I think that's where his fine comes in. There's no way I ever want to be caught shooing away a coach like that. I speak from basketball experience, but I would think that this applies to all sports, doesn't matter if it's cheerleading or basketball. It just looks ridiculously unprofessional.

He was telling Ozzie not to come out to argue the balk. That is pretty common in the bigs.

[UMP25]

West's actions were unprofessional. The guy's got an ego as big as Ozzie's, which is very big. West's fine was deserving.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Welpe

He was telling Ozzie not to come out to argue the balk. That is pretty common in the bigs.

So he had to do it that demonstratively? Can't he just wait for Ozzie to get out there and say "Hey Ozzie, it's not worth arguing, go back and sit down"?

Apparently not, and I think that was part of the reason he got fined.

[UMP25]

I'm no fan at all of Ozzie, but telling him to "get the f--k off the field" isn't exactly very professional.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by UMP25

I'm no fan at all of Ozzie, but telling him to "get the f--k off the field" isn't exactly very professional.

I wouldn't believe Ozzie if he said the sky was blue.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Apparently not, and I think that was part of the reason he got fined.

That is a big assumption, especially when you see numerous MLB umpires doing it. It is accepted at that level.

I think he got fined for making comments to the media.

UMP25, West said he didn't tell Ozzie that so somebody is lying.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That is a big assumption, especially when you see numerous MLB umpires doing it. It is accepted at that level.

I think he got fined for making comments to the media.

UMP25, West said he didn't tell Ozzie that so somebody is lying.

Regardless of how many umpires do it, it still looks really unprofessional and immature. I know managers aren't allowed to argue judgement calls, but the way West did it was wrong, IMO

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Regardless of how many umpires do it, it still looks really unprofessional and immature. I know managers aren't allowed to argue judgement calls, but the way West did it was wrong, IMO

Are you talking about the stop sign West gave him? Because that action is pretty much accepted in many circles of baseball. And it is really acceptable in basketball which you officiate. Not saying it works, but it is advocated a lot. I just came back from basketball camp and this was talked about all the time. I think you would be in the minority if you consider this unprofessional.

Peace

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you talking about the stop sign West gave him? Because that action is pretty much accepted in many circles of baseball. And it is really acceptable in basketball which you officiate. Not saying it works, but it is advocated a lot. I just came back from basketball camp and this was talked about all the time. I think you would be in the minority if you consider this unprofessional.

Peace

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CWS@CLE: Ozzie is ejected for arguing a balk call - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

There's a stop sign at about :47 seconds, and then there's not one, but two "shoo-aways" at about the 1:00 mark.

Two very different things, IMO.