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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 02:13pm
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MO, you got to let that one go. You should have let it go once you left the field. I have learned over my few short years it aint worth the headache to keep plays like that in. The coach had his say and you had your response. The kid lied, thats nothing new. Players lie all the time, hell they do it in the MLB too.

You got out there, made your call and judging by what you saw the player did not catch the ball, otherwise he would have come up and shown it to you.

As for contacting the coach, I would leave it. HE should actually contact you and appoligize, but we all know that aint happening. Just keep it in mind for next year when you see that team.
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 02:17pm
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You should:

1) Write an email to the coach.
2) Save it as a draft over night.
3) Read it again the next morning.
4) Edit it.
5) Delete it.
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 02:46pm
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You should:

1) Write an email to the coach.
2) Save it as a draft over night.
3) Read it again the next morning.
4) Edit it.
5) Delete it.
And just for safe measure...At no point in this process should you actually put the coach's address in the To: line.
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 03:38pm
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You should:

1) Write an email to the coach.
2) Save it as a draft over night.
3) Read it again the next morning.
4) Edit it.
5) Delete it.
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 04:20pm
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They chose to let the game continue, you did the best you could under the circumstances. Forget about it.

I once did a 15-16 yr old Sr League Division Final between Nassau and Suffolk counties in LI New York. In the 6th inning the home team hit a HR with R1, R2and 1 out. Home team is down by 3 runs. HR hitter misses 3b by a good distance. Visiting team appeals and I call hitter out. Visting team wins by 1.

My partner and I were escorted away from the park by the police. The local news showed a video from the 1b stands that did not clearly show whether the kid touched 3rd or not. I, was never in doubt.

Coach said he touched, player said he touched, I was accused of having a relative in the game (not true) and everyother story about how I took the game away from the kids. Even had a fellow umpire state he would never take a HR away like that.

Three years latter, I am sitting in the parking lot talking to a team from that area and one discussion leads to another and sure enough players from that same team remember that game and tell me how the player finaly admitted missing the bag. My answer to them was "I knew that because I made the cal." Yes I admit, there is always that doubt but, you were there because you earned it and you did your job the best you could.

Move on and never stop trying to be the best you can.

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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 04:48pm
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You know, I meant to make a comment regarding that but forgot. Pete hits it on the head. By rule, "Game Management" is in charge BEFORE the game starts. Once it's underway it's completely the umpire's decision as to whether play continues. I recognize the political problem associated with doing the right thing here, but honestly - did you have a "fair" contest in conditions like that? If YOU couldn't see things, I'm sure others couldn't too. Probably, EVERYONE would have been better off had you guys stopped the game.

Had one game once where it had been raining all morning, field was a mess, rain was on the way, and still coming down. "Game Management" was there, and since this was an "important" game (what, the rest weren't?) that would determine standings, they refused to call the game. League UIC was on site.

So we went onto the field, held a plate conference, let home pitcher warm up (she couldn't even hold the ball!), got into position, called play ball, then called ballgame... and took our money. "Game Management" went ballistic, first at us, then at UIC. UIC told them to go fly a kite. "Game Management" said they weren't going to pay us for that "sham". UIC told them that EVERYONE (us, both coaches, him) told them to postpone or cancel that game - and had they done so, they would have only owed us our "show up" fee. And, if they didn't pay us, they'd "never find umpires again."

Was a fun conversation to watch, honestly. But it reminded me who was in charge and when. I'll never forget it.
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 05:07pm
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Agreed, the coach in all reality knows the kid did not catch the ball.

Move on.

Thanks
David
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Old Tue May 25, 2010, 09:19pm
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you should:

1) write an email to the coach.
2) save it as a draft over night.
3) read it again the next morning.
4) edit it.
5) delete it.
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