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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 08:39am
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NFHS Basketball rule 2-6: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective duties?


What is the baseball equivalent of this? Must an umpire ask for help, such as plate ump asking base umpire about a swing? Or is there any occasion where one ump can overrule another? Or may a coach ever take an appeal directly to the second ump and get a ruling? Does the crew chief ever have authority to set aside any decision made by another ump?

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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 09:03am
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What is the baseball equivalent of this?

There are several different sets of baseball rules. All have it covered.

Must an umpire ask for help, such as plate ump asking base umpire about a swing?

The only one that has a must is the Official Rules (OBR) of pro ball which is also the basis for most youth leagues. The only place ther is a must is when a checked swing is called a ball - then if the catcher or manager asks theumpire must check with the BU. Other rules sets say "may'.


Or is there any occasion where one ump can overrule another?

No.

Or may a coach ever take an appeal directly to the second ump and get a ruling?

No

Does the crew chief ever have authority to set aside any decision made by another ump?

Only if two umpires make opposite calls on the same play. Then he decides which is more likelly correct. He cannot set aside or overrule any call other than it that particular case.
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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 10:22am
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The UIC for the game also gets the final word on a rule intrepretation, if the there is a disagreement within the crew on a protest.
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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 04:18pm
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NFHS Basketball rule 2-6: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective duties?


What is the baseball equivalent of this? Must an umpire ask for help, such as plate ump asking base umpire about a swing? Or is there any occasion where one ump can overrule another? Or may a coach ever take an appeal directly to the second ump and get a ruling? Does the crew chief ever have authority to set aside any decision made by another ump?

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ORB 9.02 (c) If a decision is appealed, the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire’s decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it.

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ART. 4 ...
Any umpire's decision which involves judgment, such as whether a hit is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. But if there is reasonable doubt about some decision being in conflict with the rules, the coach or captain may ask that the correct ruling be made. The umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked by the one making it.
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