OBS call and aftermath

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

You used a FED mechanic for what could have been an OBR modified rule game. However when you called obstruction, you had him protected to 3B whether he would have made it or not.

If the players stop playing, there is nothing you can do about it. Hopefully now, they have been educated

If it was an OBR game, then it was obstruction without a play. There's no minimum required award for that.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If it was an OBR game, then it was obstruction without a play. There's no minimum required award for that.

You're right. I worded it poorly for sure. The OP said he would have probably been out. But on the other hand, he might have been safe. Depending if a play was made, and the severity of the obstuction I would probably had the runner protected to 3B. If R2 stops and sauters to 3B, and a play was made on him, I would have an out.

Personally, picturing the play in my head, I wouldn't have called obstruction. I think we've all seen a fielder trying to make a play, and the runner trying to advance at same time.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[DG]

Last week I had 2 obstructions, not in same game, both FED rules. In one the runner was in a rundown between 2nd and 3rd and I stuck the left fist out. The rundown lasted a bit, and finally runner was tagged and I called TIME and awarded 3b. Offensive coach is saying "that's interference" from the get go and when it is all over I have to explain obstruction, not interference, and it's a delayed dead ball to offensive coach and then do same for defensive coach who comes out for explanation. "Darndest thing I ever heard" is what he said as he walked off.

Later in the week I had one on another rundown between home and 3rd. When I saw it I pointed distinctly and snapped off "that's obstruction". Everyone seemed to stop what they were doing and the tag came quickly. No questions from anybody after the award on that one.

I think I will drop the left fist entirely. The other works much better.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by DG

Later in the week I had one on another rundown between home and 3rd. When I saw it I pointed distinctly and snapped off "that's obstruction". Everyone seemed to stop what they were doing and the tag came quickly. No questions from anybody after the award on that one.

Just like a balk, I say it loud enough to hopefully stop the action -- it's easier that way.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

I think I will drop the left fist entirely. The other works much better.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You could point and call it, and then extend the left arm.

(And, then do as I do, drop the left arm after a few seconds. IMO, the left arm is for those who don't see / hear the original call. When they see the left arm they know "that's something" even if they're not quite sure what it is.)

[dash_riprock]

Me too. I'll give the DDB signal with the OBS call to satisfy the FED rule, then the arm comes down.

[DG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You could point and call it, and then extend the left arm.

(And, then do as I do, drop the left arm after a few seconds. IMO, the left arm is for those who don't see / hear the original call. When they see the left arm they know "that's something" even if they're not quite sure what it is.)

Yes, I agree. But most folks recognize a loud vocal more easily than a silent fist, but both is certainly not bad.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

Yes, I agree. But most folks recognize a loud vocal more easily than a silent fist, but both is certainly not bad.

Is the "proper" FED mechanic *just* the fist (no vocal)? I thought it was both, but I don't get the official FED mechanics book.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Is the "proper" FED mechanic *just* the fist (no vocal)? I thought it was both, but I don't get the official FED mechanics book.

It is both per 8-3-2.