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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 09:38am
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Ah, but this situation begs an interesting question. If the ball/play is dead at the point of INT, and the ball is nowhere near the apex of it's travel (just going up), can you still call the IFF? Can you call IFF on a dead ball?
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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 10:04am
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Ah, but this situation begs an interesting question. If the ball/play is dead at the point of INT, and the ball is nowhere near the apex of it's travel (just going up), can you still call the IFF? Can you call IFF on a dead ball?
IFF is in effect when the ball is hit, not when it hits its apex. The umpires wait until the apex to call it to ensure all the conditions are met (especially ordinary effort).

7.4.1G, while a different situation, says "The situation [of Infield Fly] determines the out, not the declaration." The situation was there: bases loaded, less than two outs, pop fly, ordinary effort (as evidenced by F6 still catching the ball).

So, to answer your questions, yes. You can still call the IFF.
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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 10:16am
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Ah, but this situation begs an interesting question.
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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 01:19pm
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Confused - iff - interference?

Explain why the second out on the IFF please? 1. IFF 2. Interference on R2? - The way I understand it, the interference did not disrupt the play, F6 caught the ball, would this not be a delayed dead ball situation...now if the interference caused him to drop it - would it then be interference as stated in a related post?
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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 03:36pm
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Explain why the second out on the IFF please? 1. IFF 2. Interference on R2? - The way I understand it, the interference did not disrupt the play, F6 caught the ball, would this not be a delayed dead ball situation...now if the interference caused him to drop it - would it then be interference as stated in a related post?
The play began with 1 out. Second out on IFF. Third out on INT.

Fielders have a right to an unimpeded attempt to field a batted ball. The runner bumped into him. Minimal judgment required to call that (some would say "automatic").

INT by a runner is an immediate dead ball in all cases. Only coach's, catcher's, and batter's INT are delayed dead.
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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 10:02pm
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Today an umpire acquaintance said of this play, "I'd call the interference and ignore the Infield Fly - there's no way you can get two outs on this."
I discovered there was no way I could convince him otherwise.

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Old Sat May 01, 2010, 11:22pm
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Today an umpire acquaintance said of this play, "I'd call the interference and ignore the Infield Fly - there's no way you can get two outs on this."
I discovered there was no way I could convince him otherwise.

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What's his opinion on an IFF that hits a runner off a base?
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Old Sun May 02, 2010, 07:11am
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Today an umpire acquaintance said of this play, "I'd call the interference and ignore the Infield Fly - there's no way you can get two outs on this."
No provision of the rules permits ignoring an IFF. If you were going to ignore something here, it would be the INT, on the grounds that the defense wasn't really "hindered."

I don't accept that argument, but there's more room for reasonable people to disagree.
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