Time for Ya'll to teach me something:

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

The proper mechanic is: "Time! That's a do-over and a strike on the swing."

A "do-over"? Seriously? I'm hoping you're just trolling.

[Tim C]

"A "do-over"? Seriously? I'm hoping you're just trolling."

yawetag:

A couple of points.

Dash is a well respected posting member of this and other sites.

It appears that perhaps you have misplaced your sense of humor.

And finally, like it or not, there are legal "Do Overs" in baseball.

T

[dash_riprock]

Thank you Tim.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Tim C

yawetag:

A couple of points.

Dash is a well respected posting member of this and other sites.

It appears that perhaps you have misplaced your sense of humor.

And finally, like it or not, there are legal "Do Overs" in baseball.

T

I'm aware of Dash's status here and other places. That certainly doesn't mean he's perfect, and his reply was akin to other "everyone knows I'm joking" lines. If my read of it being a joke was incorrect, then I think Dash was wrong.

Of course there are legal "do overs." I would hate to think any of us don't know about the "batter causes the pitcher to balk" rule.

You're suggesting the OP situation is one of those times? The only "do overs" I know of don't include a strike on the call. If Dash meant "the runner returns to third" then I would agree; however, that's not a "do over."

In my experience, "do overs" don't include anything other than the same batter with the same count and runners returning to their original bases. If I'm wrong, then education in the matter would be greatly appreciated. However, I can't ever see myself using the term "do over" in any mechanic, unless it's "no pitch; runners return."

[Tim C]

the answer is in:

You have no sense of humor.

I can live with that.

T

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Tim C

the answer is in:

You have no sense of humor.

I can live with that.

T

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

For the record (and the assistance of newer players reading this thread), was Dash joking or serious?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

For the record (and the assistance of newer players reading this thread), was Dash joking or serious?

If you have to ask, Tim C. was correct.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

If you have to ask, Tim C. was correct.

I apologize. I forgot that Dash, Tim, and you were perfect and never made mistakes. From now on, I'll assume that everything you three say has no mistakes and I'll never question it.

Maybe next time Dash should include some sort of indication of sarcasm. It's hard to read it in one sentence.

[dash_riprock]

Andrew,

For the record:

1. I have made mistakes here and on the field.
2. I will make more mistakes.
3. I was kidding you with "Time! That's a do-over!".
4. Are you kidding me?

[Tim C]

Hmmm,

1. I make errors here and in life.
2. I will make more mistakes here and in life.
3. I will NEVER miss another call during a game.
4. I really don't take softball umpires that seriously.

T

[dash_riprock]

I concur.

[ManInBlue]

Considering dash was the first to respond to the thread, then added the "do-over" response later, I'd say he was joking (seemed obvious to me). Actually, I consider ANY do-over response to be a joke, unless there is a valid rule siting with it. Besides that, the question had been asked and answered, so why not add a "dash" of spice to the conversation.

Accept it and move on. No need to continue defending yourself. On this particular subject you are in the boat alone and you're missing the paddles. Plus you've painted yourself in a corner and all you had left to say was "I forgot you're always right." Time to stop. I would expect the next response to be "I know you are but what am I?"

You started all of this by suggesting dash was trolling. "Are you Joking?" would have been a better response. "Trolling" is not a good thing and you better have some support before you use that term.

Look on the bright side, they could have seriously dust rolled your butt, but all they did was say dash is OK. You got of easy, at first.

[bossman72]

Note to PA umpires - our state interpreter wants backswing interference enforced in our games (NFHS Rules).

As for tim's post, if backswing INT happens on strike 3, the ball is dead, the batter is out and all runners return to TOP base. Same for NCAA and OBR.