Rules Test

[youngump]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

...we'll have fun and a likely ejection, since we don't do appeals in FED ball. Don't ask me why, we just don't...if we see it, we call it. If we don't, we don't. In the case of this play, we'll likely be ejecting the OC after explaining to him why his run will not count. Or, ejecting the DC if U1 didn't see the B/R miss first base from the C and the DC saw it...

Do you actually have a rule about the order of the calls? Presumably the runner from second missed third before the batter-runner missed first; but what if it didn't happen in that order?
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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by youngump

Do you actually have a rule about the order of the calls? Presumably the runner from second missed third before the batter-runner missed first; but what if it didn't happen in that order?

It's the order of the appeals that matters, not the order in which the infractions occurred.

[dash_riprock]

Except in SC where there are no appeals. The ump is supposed to call it right away. It would have to be in the order in which the infractions occurred.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Except in SC where there are no appeals. The ump is supposed to call it right away. It would have to be in the order in which the infractions occurred.

The "old" FED rule had the infractions called at the end of playing action (not "right away") and the defense could choose the order that gave them the advantage.

I assume SC is still the same way.

[scarolinablue]

Yes, we call them at the end of playing action.

[lawump]

SCarolina Blue is 100% correct. There are no appeal plays in South Carolina high school baseball.

I won't elaborate, but the reason has to do with some high ranking persons in the state who had some hurt feelings and refused to go along with the FED when it changed its rules to adopt an appeal rule 10 years ago, or so.

While I always had a good relationship with the assistant director in charge of baseball who just retired, the fact is that he refused to change the state high school league's stance on this rule. However, now that he is retired, as President of one of, if not, the largest high school umpires association in the state, I am lobbying hard to adopt the appeal rule for 2011.

I can state positively that every high school umpire association's "official position" is exactly the same: that the rule should be employed in SC.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The "old" FED rule had the infractions called at the end of playing action (not "right away") and the defense could choose the order that gave them the advantage.

I assume SC is still the same way.

Wow - that could get interesting. So the miss wasn't even announced 'til playing action was over? That could cause the defense to make a play on a runner who was already (soon to be) out.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Wow - that could get interesting. So the miss wasn't even announced 'til playing action was over? That could cause the defense to make a play on a runner who was already (soon to be) out.

That's no (or at least not much) different from the current appeal rule. And, iirc, the defense could make a live-ball appeal during playing action (just as they can now) if they so chose.

[dash_riprock]

Well don't I feel stupid. Maybe I should put that crack pipe down once in a while.