Rules Test

[ManInBlue]

I'm confident that I know the answer to this, but I'm having trouble finding the rule. Please site the rule in your answer.

"With one out and runners on second and third, the batter hits a single to left field. The runner on third touches home while the runner on second misses third and scores and the batter-runner missed first and safely goes to second. The defense properly apeals the runner missing third base and then appeal the batter-runner missing first. One run will be scored."

True or False - again, please site the rule or case play.

[pastordoug]

Rules 8-2-6k page 47 "If a baserunning infraction is the third out, runs scored by the following runner(s) would not count".

The run that scored was not "following."

Case 8.2.1 sit B

True...

[ManInBlue]

I see your logic.

However, what has had me perplexed (and I just found 9-1-1a, and 8-2-6K) - the third out was the B-R prior to reaching 1B.

What has me quesitoning myself is - Is the play at 1B a timing play, or is it simply the third out at 1B before B-R reaches 1B?

[pastordoug]

I see the point and when I get back will do a little more research. I was quoting fron FED book... But might lean towards no runs due to BR not leaglly gaining 1st.

[kylejt]

The latter.

[ManInBlue]

Sorry - I didn't clarify - this is FED rules.

TussAgee's rule is still applicable as a FED rule.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

Sorry - I didn't clarify - this is FED rules.

TussAgee's rule is still applicable as a FED rule.

Doesn't matter, except for the specific references. If the third out is on a force, or by BR before reaching first, no runs can score.

[TussAgee11]

OBR -

4.09a - no runs score because batter/runner was retired before reaching 1st base for the 3rd out.

If you flipped the appeals, one run would score because none of the 3 provisions in 4.09a would have been met.