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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 07:06pm
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs. Fly ball. R3 thinking there were less than two outs goes back to 3rd to tag up, coach seeing that the smart runner at 2nd is about to pass R3 pushes him (R3) off toward home. RF drops the flyball in right center, allowing R2 to score. Question is does the run count or not? R3 is out for coaches interference, but is it a delayed dead ball? How would you administer this?

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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 07:22pm
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If R3 is out, how would it be possible for R2 to score? The DDB only exists in FED, and that wouldn't even apply to this situation. As soon as I see the 3B coach assist R3, I call him out and the inning is over. Is there some other way to administer this?
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 07:44pm
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs. Fly ball. R3 thinking there were less than two outs goes back to 3rd to tag up, coach seeing that the smart runner at 2nd is about to pass R3 pushes him (R3) off toward home. RF drops the flyball in right center, allowing R2 to score. Question is does the run count or not? R3 is out for coaches interference, but is it a delayed dead ball? How would you administer this?

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R3 is immediately out - ending the inning.

If there had been less than 2 outs R3 would be immediately out but play would continue.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 08:32pm
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R3 is immediately out - ending the inning.

If there had been less than 2 outs R3 would be immediately out but play would continue.
Agreed. Curious as to why JJ is posting this. Maybe there's a "trick" I'm not seeing.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 10:32pm
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Nope, no trick. Just thought it was time to post a baseball question, so I did - albeit a fairly easy one.

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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 10:49pm
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Nope, no trick. Just thought it was time to post a baseball question, so I did - albeit a fairly easy one.

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Agreed. Curious as to why JJ is posting this. Maybe there's a "trick" I'm not seeing.
R2 would be sent back to the base occupied at the time of the interference.
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R2 would be sent back to the base occupied at the time of the interference.
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Runners on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 02:43pm
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R2 would be sent back to the base occupied at the time of the interference.
No. In this case the ball remains live and play continues.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 02:50pm
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No. In this case the ball remains live and play continues.
Depends on the rules code, I think (but it's basketball season, so the baseball section of my brain is in hibernation).
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 03:24pm
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The DDB only exists in FED
It exists in all codes, they just don't call it the way FED does.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 04:07pm
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R3 is immediately out - ending the inning.

If there had been less than 2 outs R3 would be immediately out but play would continue.
actually on a coach assist play... the ball is live and you wait for the outcome of the play.. then call time.. and interference...cause if R3 is thrown out then we dont have interference right?
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 04:19pm
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actually on a coach assist play... the ball is live and you wait for the outcome of the play.. then call time.. and interference...cause if R3 is thrown out then we dont have interference right?
No. The assisted runner is out immediately. The ball remains live (at least for a while) for (at least) plays on the other runners.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 05:12pm
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No. The assisted runner is out immediately. The ball remains live (at least for a while) for (at least) plays on the other runners.
Yep, and if there were less than two out the runners would end up where they end up - they don't get sent back to where they were at the time of the interference. That allows the defense to make plays on them.

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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 05:26pm
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Yep, and if there were less than two out the runners would end up where they end up - they don't get sent back to where they were at the time of the interference. That allows the defense to make plays on them.

JJ
JJ,

Except in FED of course, where the defense may still get additional outs following the infraction, but remaining runners are returned to their TOI(nfraction) base.

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