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And naturally, I'm old school as well. I guess it will take my retirement (again, as I have more lives than Bret Favre apparently
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Far different from the play at plate, where F2's responsibilities are 1) Catch 2) Block 3) Brace/Tag (different orgs. may teach 1 and 2 vice versa to eliminate the steamroll before the ball ever gets there, or dekeing the runner into slowing up). |
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Also, your comparison is not a good one. We are talking about ROUTINE plays not Bang bang plays. When a runner comes crashing into F2 for the most part the play is close or F2 is blocking his path. You cannot compare a play at the plate where F2 is blocking the runners path to a ROUTINE play at second base. Pete Booth
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I am not replying to any post on this.
I saw the video posted of the play in question. That was not a neighborhood play. His feet were about 6 inches from the base during the whole play. Not even close to a neighborhood play. I will give it in situations when I am not sure if he touched the base or not. Such as, F6 drags his foot behind 2B and is close to the base. How can you dispute if he touched or not? The base isn't going to move if he just clips it. I'll give that or if one of his feet comes within just a few millimeters of the base. Again, hard to tell if he touched it or not at regular speed. But, Aybar's feet were never close to 2B and that is the right call. That is not a neighborhood play at all. I don't believe the neighborhood play is dead by no means. I just think the umpires need to make the players work a little more than that to earn it. Be a little more deceptive than that. The nose bleed section could tell he didn't touch the base or even come close. At least be in the neighborhood, to get the neighborhood call.
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At the plate on bangers the catcher has very little chance to brace himself for the collision and the catcher's gear is little help against a 200+ lb runner at full speed crashing into him with malicious intent. My point was the neighborhood call is supposed to "protect" middle infielders, who don't reallly need it if you compare the collisions they might indure to those at the plate, and MLB does not "protect" catchers. Touch the bag or you don't get the call. |
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maybe we outta have a football style instant replay, each skipper gets two challenges a game, if he wins both, he gets one more, if he loses BOTH challenges, he gets ejected, if he gets ejected for anything else, his team loses any challenges remaining. no extra challenges allowed for extra innings. make for some more skipper strategy...
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Neighborhood only in McCarver's eyes. The replay showed that Rollins brushed the bag with his left foot as he stepped back to throw.
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McCarver starts blathering on and on about some call, the replay shows it was fine, he has to say, "Oh, it looks like it was correct." Just another day at the office for him. ![]() |
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