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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 04:09pm
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"Appearance of bias..." from the conflict of interest, not actual bias. Look at the fan rantings all over the internet on this call... most are NOT from Twins fans.
NOT from Twins fans, but from total morons with no clue as to the difficulty involved in umpiring baseball. Everybody is an armchair umpire at home, but if they tried it in real life they would resemble Jimmy Hughes. These idiots refuse to accept that umpires are people, and therefore imperfect. When fielding percentages, ERA's and batting averages come close to the 99% level of correct umpire calls, then come see me about conspiracy theories.
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 04:21pm
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NOT from Twins fans
Yeah, me Minnesotans are too nice to say anything. Minnesota Nice that is what we are known for. (Although to be far it really is Minnesota Passive-Aggressive)
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 05:05pm
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Just as in any level of ball, you have guys that are solid mechanically, in Game Mgt, and judgement wise. Then you have those who are constantly in trouble. That will not or can not accept criticism or take instruction. Those whose reputation is poor, whether justified or not. But this is for sure, once the players, Mgrs, press, etc. see you as HS, that does not go away. They will not believe you right or wrong. Any close call or decision brings the heat. I suspect this is the case here.
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Just as in any level of ball, you have guys that are solid mechanically, in Game Mgt, and judgement wise. Then you have those who are constantly in trouble. That will not or can not accept criticism or take instruction. Those whose reputation is poor, whether justified or not. But this is for sure, once the players, Mgrs, press, etc. see you as HS, that does not go away. They will not believe you right or wrong. Any close call or decision brings the heat. I suspect this is the case here.
And this applies to this situation how?

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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 06:30pm
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Yeah, me Minnesotans are too nice to say anything. Minnesota Nice that is what we are known for. (Although to be far it really is Minnesota Passive-Aggressive)
I should have said NOT JUST Twins fans...
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Meaning He is in over his head, and obviously he is in trouble constantly
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Meaning He is in over his head, and obviously he is in trouble constantly
Is he really in a lot of trouble or is this just your perception? Perception is not often reality.
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 07:56pm
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After missing that call Cuzzi should be fined and taken off the crew and not be allowed to umpire anymore this year. That was not even a hard call to make for gosh sakes total incompetence.
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 08:28pm
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After missing that call Cuzzi should be fined and taken off the crew and not be allowed to umpire anymore this year. That was not even a hard call to make for gosh sakes total incompetence.
The Twins didn't say anything when they had the opportunity. Its nothing but old milk now.
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 08:56pm
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After missing that call Cuzzi should be fined and taken off the crew and not be allowed to umpire anymore this year. That was not even a hard call to make for gosh sakes total incompetence.
Good grief. Get a grip. An umpire missed a call. We don't know why. Yes, from our vantage point it should have been an easy call to make. No one here knows what it looked like to him or what he was thinking at the time.

But apparently the reason, if there is one, doen't matter. Let's put his head on a pike outsided the entrance to the Twins Stadium as a warning to all other umpires.

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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 09:04pm
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After missing that call Cuzzi should be fined and taken off the crew and not be allowed to umpire anymore this year. That was not even a hard call to make for gosh sakes total incompetence.
His punishment will probably be not making the world series crew... but like the guy before me said, he is a human and we can make mistakes.
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Old Tue Oct 13, 2009, 09:38pm
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Actually, the Twins fan boards, while generally angry about the call, were more angry with Gomez' LL bench player base running, Nathan's blown save, and leaving 17 baserunners stranded.
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I think the call would be a lot easier to accept if it hadn't been a fly ball fair/foul call---the easiest call in all of umpiring.
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Old Wed Oct 14, 2009, 11:57am
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I think the call would be a lot easier to accept if it hadn't been a fly ball fair/foul call---the easiest call in all of umpiring.
Easier than calling ball/strike when the batter takes a full swing?
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Old Wed Oct 14, 2009, 02:25pm
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I think the call would be a lot easier to accept if it hadn't been a fly ball fair/foul call---the easiest call in all of umpiring.
How often have you made that call as the LF line umpire in a major league game, positioned, perhaps, too damn close to the play?
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