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And the Twins were the victims--really stinks. I've never seen a major league ump miss such a fair/foul call. The only excuse I can think is that he misjudged that the ball was touched by F7 over foul ground? Still not good.
Of course, failing to score with bases loaded and no outs stinks worse. P-Sz |
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Two of the worst blown calls I have ever seen were made by C.B. Bucknor at first in last night's Angels-Sox game. And there was a huge kick at third in Philadelphia.
But that fair/foul was beyond belief. You have one thing to do all effing night and then that's it?!? Wow. The best of the best. |
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 03:25am
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So why didn't everyone here go to the umpires school so we could have competent umpires in MLB.
Horsesh!t baseball to get caught at second and tagged before the run scored at the plate earlier in the game, to end the inning and possibly score more runs. Horsesh!t baseball when you cannot score in that same inning of the call with the bases loaded and 0 outs. Horsesh!t baseball when the manager in the postgame interview has to ask the press, there were 6 umpires right, because he didn't really know. Who stranded runners all night? Who gave up a game tying home run in the bottom of the 9th-How about the walk-off in the 11th? Last edited by tballump; Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 04:27am. |
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 07:27am
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 07:59am
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One of several with Cuzzi and the Yankees.
That call was not why the Twins lost the game. Leaving 17 runners on base is a good start.
But, I have to say these are things that make you go hmmmm... Rd. 2: Guillen upset with umpire Cuzzi | whitesox.com: News Home rules for New York Yankees; Indians lose, 6-5 | Cleveland Indians - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com Ozzie Guillen Is Not A Fan of Phil Cuzzi -- MLB FanHouse Sports: Healing Thome gets extra swings |
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 10:44am
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Too many, too close
I won't participate in pro umpire criticism. I saw it, watched replays, and watched the interview of the crew chief.
Obvious Dept: The best professional umpires make mistakes, sometimes. But what I think is interesting to discuss is the 6 umpire system, under the category of WHY? Doesn't it seem that more often than not over the years you have the line umpire getting near a play and missing it? Seems to me that fair and foul is pretty well covered with 4 umpires. And last night maybe by being THAT close it contributes to the miss. Of course the 2 extra umpires are getting big playoff money, so from umpires perspective it won't change. But... really... does it help? How often have you seen a call that you say could only have been made (correctly) with 6 umpires.
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Sat Oct 10, 2009, 10:46am
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Blind defense of all umpires regardless of anything and everything is not the sign of loyalty that you think it is. And to come at every critic with that convoluted if-not-for-this-play-or-that-error-or-this-bad-decision-then-the-call-wouldn't-have-mattered approach is an insult to everyone who knows the game. Another insult is that if-you-can-do-better-then-why-aren't-you-out-there nonsense. This is America; we're allowed to find fault with the big people in this society and the way they run things and then voice it. Say all you want about everything that happened before the call; it is indefensible. Period. He's in the major leagues for crying out loud! If you want to be a blindly loyal, blissfully accepting follower, that is your right. But you don't have to be so defensive and insulting of people who choose to have their eyes and minds open to what the realities are. Last edited by Kevin Finnerty; Sat Oct 10, 2009 at 10:50am. |
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I won't defend the call, but Minnesota had every opportunity to win that game. It's sad that the one horrendous fair/foul call will overshadow the fact that Minnesota should have easily won that game.
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We can't defend the call, he simply blew it.
We also don't know what was in his head, or what he saw from his angle. Replay can't view the play from the precise place that the official sees the play, which is why I'm against replay in baseball.
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Another thing that makes that thing so egregious is that it almost couldn't have been an easier call to blow. Zero factors, just watching the ball hit the glove and the ground. Preposterous.
The game is what it is. A call late in a close game can decide it. If you blow it, you can hand a game to a team. Nothing else at that point is really relevant. It just lessens the sting to bring it up. |
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