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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 09:43am
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How does your state get away with such an asinine procedure? Protests are not supposed to be rushed like that. How silly!

I would like to grab umpires that make that kind of call and just slap the living sh*t out of them!
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 10:08am
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"I would like to grab umpires that make that kind of call and just slap the living sh*t out of them!"

I am glad to hear another umpire say that. At least it is not just coaches who feel like this.

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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 11:19am
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As I posted in another thread, it is the person who claims that a violation has occurred and seeks to impose a penalty that owes an explanation and rules citation. He needs to state which rule has been violated.

And the protest procedure unfairly burdens the coach. Suppose an umpire calls out a runner who had hit a HR because he touched 3B with his left foot instead of his right. Nothing in the rulebook is going to back up a protesting coach, but obviously such an umpire would be incorrect.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:12pm
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As I posted in another thread, it is the person who claims that a violation has occurred and seeks to impose a penalty that owes an explanation and rules citation. He needs to state which rule has been violated.

And the protest procedure unfairly burdens the coach. Suppose an umpire calls out a runner who had hit a HR because he touched 3B with his left foot instead of his right. Nothing in the rulebook is going to back up a protesting coach, but obviously such an umpire would be incorrect.
The rulebook will cite that each base must be touched in order and it will not state any requirement as to which foot must touch, thus it will back up the protesting coach.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:27pm
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Yeah but...

As I said before, if you have an umpire who is arrogant enough to make the call, he will most likely be one of those type of guys who says, "It's in there somewhere. The batter is out."
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:48pm
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As I said before, if you have an umpire who is arrogant enough to make the call, he will most likely be one of those type of guys who says, "It's in there somewhere. The batter is out."
If the ruling body has an accumulative IQ of above 90, it shouldn't matter what the umpire says if the coach presents what is in the rule book. There is enough there to settle the issue,

Additionally, any umpire who says "It's in there somewhere" is going to look even more like a horse's arse than he did when he made the call. Have some faith in your system and know the rules.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:34pm
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I agree, the umpire that made that call was related to a certain part of a horse .

This is kind of like when I first started and many would say, "I don't know what he did but, it was definitely a Balk?

If you can't explain your ruling with similar words from the rulebook, then you probably don't understand enough to make such a ruling.

Tem minutes to look up a rule? Hell, most coaches couldn't find their rulebook in ten minutes
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:50pm
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This is kind of like when I first started and many would say, "I don't know what he did but, it was definitely a Balk?
I have taken to replying "what did he do?" when a team complains incorrectly that a pitcher has balked. It shuts them up pretty quickly when they don't have an answer.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 12:54pm
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You have to know the individual who made the call. I do, and have worked with him several times. He can be very good, and he can be an absolute horses ***. As in this case, and no, I am in no way defending him here, he is plan and simply WRONG. I'm just damn glad I wasn't on the field with him. He is also the infamous ejecting the announcer of ESPN fame while working in the GBL. From what I was told he was using rule 3-2-3 I believe, some nonsense like that. Claiming interference. It basically comes down to an unbelievable ego, with the I can make the big call mentality. Clearly he has forgotten the mantra, rule with the book not by the book. Lets not forget, it was a dead ball during the high five. Terrible, just terrible call.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 01:13pm
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Last year, didn't an umpire cost an NCAA women's softball team a game on the same (wrong) call?

Does Fed still have the rule that you throw the player out if he has chewing gum wadded in his cheek?
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