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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 01:00am
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ML blown call?

From today's Pirates/Rockies game:

"Delwyn Young swung and missed at Jhoulys Chacin's 0-1 cutter for strike two, but the ball hit Young on the leg and ricocheted toward the Pirates' third-base dugout. Rockies catcher Chris Iannetta asked home plate umpire Mike DiMuro for a new ball not knowing the original ball, ruled a wild pitch, was still in play. A heads-up Doumit raced home before Iannetta knew what had happened."

The runner from 3rd scored on this play. Reading the "pitch hits batter on hand on 3rd strike thread", the recurring theme was that anytime a pitch hits a batter while swinging, it's a dead ball.

Is this just at the HS level? Or did DiMuro and his crew somehow miss an easy one?

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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 01:10am
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Video

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Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | PIT@COL: Doumit's heads-up baserunning has Bucs ahead - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 01:35am
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I thought the same thing when I saw that on Sportscenter.
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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 02:10am
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Easy call?

Sitting in your living room and watching 13 replays and 3 paragraphs of media coverage is an "Easy Call"

Being behind the plate or at the game and missing the call was not easy. HP ump was blocked out by batter and the batter did take a full swing. It also seems quite possible that the runner thought it was a dropped ball too.

Should it have been a dead ball? yea but, it obvious that it wasn't because they didn't call it.
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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 02:13am
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WTF

over.

Okay, you MLB umpire butt kissers, 'splain that one to me, Lucy.

And how does Jim Tracy not know the rules? What on Earth did the PU say to him, to make him walk away from putting that runner back to 3rd? I mean the BR is on the ground in pain!

How does U1 or U3 NOT call time, and fix this?

Okay, I get the announcers don't know, that's okay. They get a pass.

Alright, I watched it again, and U3 was probably blocked out by R3 ( He shouldn't have, because he's got checkswings on lefties). U1 didn't have an angle on ball hitting the back leg. U2 is too far away. I'm just guessing the PU thought the ball bounced off the catcher. Yow, that's awful.

Bottom line: U3 has to see this. That's his job.

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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 07:53am
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4 umpires and nobody saw the batter get hit?????? Come on guys, somethings wrong.

From the coach's reaction, the PU must have told him that the ball didn't hit him. Hard to argue a rule interpretation when the umpires are blind to the situation.

I expect more from a major league crew.........
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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 08:06am
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They're not going to get them all right...those are tough calls.
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Old Wed Aug 12, 2009, 08:06am
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WTF

over.

Okay, you MLB umpire butt kissers, 'splain that one to me, Lucy.

And how does Jim Tracy not know the rules? What on Earth did the PU say to him, to make him walk away from putting that runner back to 3rd? I mean the BR is on the ground in pain!
Sure didn't look like pain to me, looked like he swung and missed with too much power and ended up on his backside. Sure got up quickly too.

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How does U1 or U3 NOT call time, and fix this?
Not their call to make. BUT, it is not as though it drilled him it merely grazed him, and then got shin-guard, from 120' away at a 45* angle to this I can see how it may go unnoticed. If you notice even the pitcher is coming in and trying to get the ball to make a play.

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Okay, I get the announcers don't know, that's okay. They get a pass.
Don't give them a pass, that is why they can get away with what they say.

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Alright, I watched it again, and U3 was probably blocked out by R3 ( He shouldn't have, because he's got checkswings on lefties). U1 didn't have an angle on ball hitting the back leg. U2 is too far away. I'm just guessing the PU thought the ball bounced off the catcher. Yow, that's awful.

Bottom line: U3 has to see this. That's his job.
His job here is the check-swing. Nothing else.
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Is this just at the HS level? Or did DiMuro and his crew somehow miss an easy one?
The latter.

6.08(b) and APPROVED RULING

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