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Old Sun Aug 09, 2009, 11:17pm
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Bud Black EJ

I think bud had a great argument here... even though get guy gets thrown more than anyone else...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Black and Colbert are ejected arguing a lineup change - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
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Old Sun Aug 09, 2009, 11:22pm
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what happened?
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Old Sun Aug 09, 2009, 11:24pm
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I think bud had a great argument here... even though get guy gets thrown more than anyone else...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Black and Colbert are ejected arguing a lineup change - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
Wow, what's with the old video from last year? Bud was ejected last night because Barksdale blew a call big time. It's not like Black gets thrown out all that often. If you have to resort to pulling up a video from last season, that doesn't help your case. Let's see, I believe Bobby Cox and Ron Gardenhire get kicked out about twice as often as Black does.
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Bud Black is on a very short list of the best guys in baseball over the last 25 years. Ask most everyone who played or coached with him. Class guy.
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Wow, what's with the old video from last year? Bud was ejected last night because Barksdale blew a call big time. It's not like Black gets thrown out all that often. If you have to resort to pulling up a video from last season, that doesn't help your case. Let's see, I believe Bobby Cox and Ron Gardenhire get kicked out about twice as often as Black does.
ok what about this one then Steve.... Cox again, but look at the PU signal for a strike.. then he takes it away...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Black and Colbert are ejected arguing a lineup change - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
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Old Mon Aug 10, 2009, 10:34pm
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this is the video.. PU says runner missed home...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | [email protected]: Black is ejected arguing a play at the plate - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
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Old Mon Aug 10, 2009, 10:54pm
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As a MLB manager, there are times when you need to stick up for your players to the point of getting tossed. He had to get run to make his point on this terrible call. No way can you come back to the dugout after your player touches the plate like that.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 02:02am
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Black got run. I would have gotten run too if Barksdale made a call like that and I was the manager. It was brutal! Jeez, the umpires suck sometimes....so what?

I kick a call once in a while too, it's just not spread all over the Internet. I've blown calls and been booed and thought to myself that if I were a fan right now I'd be booing me too!
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 08:48am
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I'm sorry to everyone who feels that MLB umpires are without fault, but that may have been the worst call I have ever seen. There is no excuse. There was no reason to miss it. What on Earth did this guy see? Maybe he blinked.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 09:12am
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I'm sorry to everyone who feels that MLB umpires are without fault, but that may have been the worst call I have ever seen. There is no excuse. There was no reason to miss it. What on Earth did this guy see? Maybe he blinked.
If you are referring to the Barksdale play, the only thing I can guess is the runner's body blocked his view. He didn't get fully 3BLX and wasn't 1BLX so I think he chose a bad angle. And, by that angle, did not have the best look at the whole play. That is my only guess and only he knows for sure.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 09:16am
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So it's worse than I originally stated.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 09:22am
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Yeah, he missed it...rather badly...oh well...he's probably reviewed the play 100 times and won't make the error again if he can help it.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 01:30pm
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If the runner did block his view of the plate that's fine, [email protected]#$ happens. But you can't assume a miss, if that were the case. That's the bad part. If you can't see it, you HAVE to assume that he touched it.
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 03:44pm
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I'm sorry, but how do you miss that one?
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Old Tue Aug 11, 2009, 04:04pm
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Poor or incorrect angle IMO...he obviously decided no touch at the moment which he chose to not call him safe. Yeah, it's a pretty bad miss. I guess we call it the human element. Some ground balls still 5-hole a gold glove shortstop yet we don't hammer him into the ground for missing a ground ball that most little leaguers can field.

Not intending to be confrontational at all Kevin...just talking with you...but I think we've probably all missed ones that we shouldn't have missed. I will speak for myself...I have missed ones like this...not at the dish, but on the bases and I've become a better umpire because of it.

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