3-man mechanics questions

[zm1283]

1. R3 only. Does U3 take the B/R to 2B on a clean base hit, or does U1 come inside and pivot and take the B/R to second? (This is when it is obvious that R3 is going to score)

2. No runners on. U1 goes out on a fly ball down the RF line. U3 comes to the middle for a play at 2B. Does the PU move up to 1B for a play behind the B/R at 1B?

3. No runners on. Does the PU only rotate to 3B when U3 goes out for a catch/no catch?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by zm1283

1. R3 only. Does U3 take the B/R to 2B on a clean base hit, or does U1 come inside and pivot and take the B/R to second? (This is when it is obvious that R3 is going to score)

2. No runners on. U1 goes out on a fly ball down the RF line. U3 comes to the middle for a play at 2B. Does the PU move up to 1B for a play behind the B/R at 1B?

3. No runners on. Does the PU only rotate to 3B when U3 goes out for a catch/no catch?

1. U3 takes the BR to second.

2. Yes.

3. No. Matter of fact, the only time with no runners that the PU has a play at third is if no umpire goes out. U3 comes to second, PU comes to third, U1 rotates down to the plate. Otherwise, revert to 2-man and the base umpire remaining takes the BR into third (just like 2-man).

[Chris_Hickman]

1. U3 takes the BR to second.

2. Yes.

3. No. Matter of fact, the only time with no runners that the PU has a play at third is if no umpire goes out. U3 comes to second, PU comes to third, U1 rotates down to the plate. Otherwise, revert to 2-man and the base umpire remaining takes the BR into third (just like 2-man).

I think you only use those rotations when you umpire games in England!!

[umpjong]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

1. U3 takes the BR to second.

2. Yes.

3. No. Matter of fact, the only time with no runners that the PU has a play at third is if no umpire goes out. U3 comes to second, PU comes to third, U1 rotates down to the plate. Otherwise, revert to 2-man and the base umpire remaining takes the BR into third (just like 2-man).

These are straight from CCA manual.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by umpjong

These are straight from CCA manual.

The English version.

Had to ask!!

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by zm1283

1. R3 only. Does U3 take the B/R to 2B on a clean base hit, or does U1 come inside and pivot and take the B/R to second? (This is when it is obvious that R3 is going to score)

If U3 does not go out for a catch/no-catch, he will always go into the field and have BR at second, and possibly third. U3 will never have tag up responsibility for R3 when there is R3 only, as well as R1 and R3, bases loaded.

[DonInKansas]

Seconded on the CCA quote. Best 20 bucks you'll ever spend on a manual!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Seconded on the CCA quote. Best 20 bucks you'll ever spend on a manual!

I have a free one waiting for me. I need to go pick it up.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman

I think you only use those rotations when you umpire games in England!!

Heh. Yes, I'm still in England. It's been 15 days since I was home. I umpired 14 games in the 3-umpire system last week in the Netherlands and 8 the previous weekend in Florida, so I think I'm more adept at 3-man now than 2-man. It's really a great system and the CCA mechanics are fantastic. The part I like best (with good baseball) is not sending someone out on routine fly balls -- it keeps 3 umpires in the infield and doesn't turn every fly ball into 2-man.

Fortunately for me my season has 5 games left and then I can put away the gear and work football. I'll miss baseball, but I'm a 3-sport official and I don't normally mix the seasons.

Oh, Chris, you'll be glad to know that the plate shoes I bought from you ended up being a gift to a Dutch umpire who hosted me in his home for a week. I find them the most comfortable shoes that I've ever owned, but he needed a new pair of plate shoes and coincidentally, we have the same size foot. Also, the Reeboks don't clean up as well as I'd like and I'm hoping that there's a newer version next year that doesn't use the suede-like material on the side panels. Since I also have a new pair of Honig's plates and I only have 2 plate jobs left, I'll be OK. I also sold my low profile titanium mask to someone for 100 euro -- next season or when they're put on sale (if ever) I'll buy a regular profile one. Love the mask - hate the low profile. Also gave an umpire my WV Gold. I got 3 years use from it and only paid $100 for it. So I'll be in the market for a new protector, too. At least my luggage came in under the weight limit.

[DonInKansas]

.....or he got mugged by an umpiring street gang and is trying to cover it up. Whichever.