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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 06:58pm
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The caption of this picture states that R3 is scoring or attempts to score from
3B on a bunt attempt. Help me w/ PU's angle on this play. Am I looking at it correctly? Is PU out of position here?


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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 07:31pm
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I find it hard to believe that the picture wasn't miscaptioned. I have never seen any PU take position inside fair territory on a squeeze play.


AFTER FURTHER REVIEW: It appears that I was looking at it wrong. He is in foul territory near 1BLX. Not all that bad of position on a squeeze. Once I looked at the bigger photo I saw where I was mistaken.
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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 07:52pm
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johnny,

It's certainly not "textbook" positioning.

Without knowing how the play developed and how he got there, it's hard to comment meaningfully on the mechanics.

To me, it looks like he had an excellent view of everything he would need to see to render a decision, and he appeared to be nicely set to see his call.

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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 09:14pm
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I find it hard to believe that the picture wasn't miscaptioned. I have never seen any PU take position inside fair territory on a squeeze play.


AFTER FURTHER REVIEW: It appears that I was looking at it wrong. He is in foul territory near 1BLX. Not all that bad of position on a squeeze. Once I looked at the bigger photo I saw where I was mistaken.
Sorry, Steve, he's in foul territory on the 3rd base side of the plate....look at the plate.....OOPS, my goof....you said 1st baseline extended....CORRECT! My bad!
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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 09:15pm
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Sorry, Steve, he's in foul territory on the 3rd base side of the plate....look at the plate.....
That's what I said...near 1BLX, which is in foul territory on the 3rd base side.
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LOL...we posted at the same time...SORRY....
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Old Tue Jul 07, 2009, 10:10pm
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I prefer 3BLX 90% of the time. Funny... The other day, I actually read a throw from the outfield being on line, went to 1BLX, and there ended up being a swipe tag since R2 did a hook slide. So, wasn't in the best position to see the tag/miss OR R2 touching the plate, so I made my best judgment.

Moral of the story, when in doubt, go to 3BLX
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Old Wed Jul 08, 2009, 07:08am
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Moral of the story, when in doubt, go to 3BLX
When in doubt, stay at the point of the plate. 3BLX will not give you proper angle if the plate is being blocked.
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Old Wed Jul 08, 2009, 07:18am
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When in doubt, stay at the point of the plate. 3BLX will not give you proper angle if the plate is being blocked.
That is good advice, but in this type of play, at point of plate you are blocked and cannot see the tag since the runner has slide around the plate.

So you either have to move a step or so one way or the other. I usually choose to move to 1BLX but that is simply preference.

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Old Wed Jul 08, 2009, 09:10am
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The caption of this picture states that R3 is scoring or attempts to score from
3B on a bunt attempt. Help me w/ PU's angle on this play. Am I looking at it correctly? Is PU out of position here?


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Could be, but the PU has fair/foul call first. Nothing is said about the direction of the bunt. This could influence where he made the call at the plate from.
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Old Wed Jul 08, 2009, 09:13am
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From that camera angle, it's tough to tell how far away from the play PU is, but he may be a tad too close. Being right on top of it usually does not help.
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Well, there is no need to apologize, but I accept yours anyway! The BLX's are confusing sometimes when you are trying to think which is which.
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When in doubt, stay at the point of the plate. 3BLX will not give you proper angle if the plate is being blocked.
I agree, and you get instant rep power for this post. What? Wrong forum? Oh, never mind then.
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From that camera angle, it's tough to tell how far away from the play PU is, but he may be a tad too close. Being right on top of it usually does not help.
Who told you this? He's not to close. Tag plays are not like force plays. Unless you are actually interfering with the play itself, there is no such thing as too close to a tag.
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Unless you are actually interfering with the play itself, there is no such thing as too close to a tag.
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