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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 10:57am
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That series permanently hooked me on the game and introduced me to two of my lifelong baseball heroes, Harmon Killebrew and Don Drysdale.
Trivia alert!

The MLB logo features the profile of Harmon Killebrew.

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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 11:03am
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Trivia alert!

The MLB logo features the profile of Harmon Killebrew.

That's a myth. The logo was designed in the 60's by Jerry Dior and nobody has ever specifically been identified by MLB or Dior as a model.

Dior claims he had no model and the silhouette was of no one in particular. Look here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122453063968851133.html

The NBA silhouette logo was created to look like this one and that one was modeled after a player -- Jerry West.
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 11:06am
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Dior claims he had no model and the silhouette was of no one in particular. Look here:
Sure he's going to say that. If he didn't, Killebrew's heirs would be suing for a cut.
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 11:12am
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Sure he's going to say that. If he didn't, Killebrew's heirs would be suing for a cut.
A cut of what? MLB hasn't even acknowledged he did the art work. (Maybe they have by now.)
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 11:19am
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If you are looking for an interesting read on the subject of the MLB logo, one of the Page 2 writers for ESPN.com did a peice on it here: Uni Watch: Intelligent design - ESPN Page 2

It is part of column he writes called Uni-Watch. It is rather interesting, and fun to read. Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 11:58am
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Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy
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1970: The NL establishes the first umpire uniform numbers, which are worn on right jacket and shirt sleeves. The AL soon does the same. Thirty-five years later, not a single baseball fan can name a single ump by number.
Hmmm....I guess he never met the folks on this forum.
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 01:30pm
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If you are looking for an interesting read on the subject of the MLB logo, one of the Page 2 writers for ESPN.com did a peice on it here: Uni Watch: Intelligent design - ESPN Page 2

It is part of column he writes called Uni-Watch. It is rather interesting, and fun to read. Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy
My Uni Watch membership card is hung on my office file cabinet -- by my Uni Watch magnet, naturally.

My number on the roster is the same as on my umpire shirts -- 7. However, my card is done in Philadelphia Flyers home black.

http://www.uniwatchblog.com/?page_id=500

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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 06:09pm
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If you are looking for an interesting read on the subject of the MLB logo, one of the Page 2 writers for ESPN.com did a peice on it here: Uni Watch: Intelligent design - ESPN Page 2

It is part of column he writes called Uni-Watch. It is rather interesting, and fun to read. Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy
I knew the AL once wore red jackets, makes sense they would be the ones to try white suits too.

And jeez, Bruce, don't you travel with more than one pair of plate pants?
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And jeez, Bruce, don't you travel with more than one pair of plate pants?
You can tell this author is biased against umpires (who isn't?). He said Froemming "pathetically" kicked the dirt off the plate the rest of the game. So what? The foot-brush works just fine, and I'm sure he didn't look pathetic doing it.
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That's a myth. The logo was designed in the 60's by Jerry Dior and nobody has ever specifically been identified by MLB or Dior as a model.

Dior claims he had no model and the silhouette was of no one in particular. Look here:

The Man Behind the MLB Logo - WSJ.com

The NBA silhouette logo was created to look like this one and that one was modeled after a player -- Jerry West.
It's funny how easily some are led to believe what they believe.

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Not a lawyer, but if he's an employee of MLB, MLB could probably use any player image they wish to market their product...so I don't think he'd be entitled to any type of royalty since it's not really intellectual property...but who knows.
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 01:42pm
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Not a lawyer, but if he's an employee of MLB, MLB could probably use any player image they wish to market their product...so I don't think he'd be entitled to any type of royalty since it's not really intellectual property...but who knows.
I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.
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I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.
It would depend on what's in the contract.
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 02:09pm
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This thread has led me to look up Harmon Killerbrews web site where I found the following quote.

"The homers he hit against us would be homers in any park, including Yellowstone."
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Old Tue Jun 23, 2009, 03:04pm
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I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.
You could be right...but they under the governing body of MLB...can't MLB use whatever pictures/video clips/etc...to market their product?

It's not a slavery thing...at least that's not how I'm seeing it.

If the commissioner can suspend a player, there certainly are rules that players must follow under league policies, there is an employer/employee relationship. Yes, they get paid by the teams...but the league still has some say over the player's actions.

Consider Dante Stallworth & Michael Vick. The league suspended them. Consider Manny. The league suspended Manny, not the Dodgers.

Maybe other posters are right, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong...but if it's his image, since he was employed by MLB, if that's the contractual agreement, then they can use the image...but I think another poster said that it's not Harmon, but a sillouette not resembling any player.
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