44 years later...

[Tim C]

" . . . Killebrew's heirs would be suing for a cut."

Why wouldn't Harmon himself be suing?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Why wouldn't Harmon himself be suing?

Yeah, come to think of it, why are they burying him so soon?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ump Rube

If you are looking for an interesting read on the subject of the MLB logo, one of the Page 2 writers for ESPN.com did a peice on it here: Uni Watch: Intelligent design - ESPN Page 2

It is part of column he writes called Uni-Watch. It is rather interesting, and fun to read. Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy

My Uni Watch membership card is hung on my office file cabinet -- by my Uni Watch magnet, naturally.

My number on the roster is the same as on my umpire shirts -- 7. However, my card is done in Philadelphia Flyers home black.

http://www.uniwatchblog.com/?page_id=500

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/...50db55.jpg?v=0

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Why wouldn't Harmon himself be suing?

Really. He's only 72 years old.

[johnnyg08]

Not a lawyer, but if he's an employee of MLB, MLB could probably use any player image they wish to market their product...so I don't think he'd be entitled to any type of royalty since it's not really intellectual property...but who knows.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Not a lawyer, but if he's an employee of MLB, MLB could probably use any player image they wish to market their product...so I don't think he'd be entitled to any type of royalty since it's not really intellectual property...but who knows.

I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.

It would depend on what's in the contract.

[Forest Ump]

This thread has led me to look up Harmon Killerbrews web site where I found the following quote.

"The homers he hit against us would be homers in any park, including Yellowstone."
-- manager Paul Richards

Gotta luv it.

[voiceoflg]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Even today, coaches believe that the best angle to call the play at 1st base is from either coaching box.

How would they know? I can't remember the last time a coach actually spent much time inside one of those boxes.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The players work for MLB, but are not owned by MLB. Slavery was outlawed during the Lincoln administration.

You could be right...but they under the governing body of MLB...can't MLB use whatever pictures/video clips/etc...to market their product?

It's not a slavery thing...at least that's not how I'm seeing it.

If the commissioner can suspend a player, there certainly are rules that players must follow under league policies, there is an employer/employee relationship. Yes, they get paid by the teams...but the league still has some say over the player's actions.

Consider Dante Stallworth & Michael Vick. The league suspended them. Consider Manny. The league suspended Manny, not the Dodgers.

Maybe other posters are right, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong...but if it's his image, since he was employed by MLB, if that's the contractual agreement, then they can use the image...but I think another poster said that it's not Harmon, but a sillouette not resembling any player.

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

You could be right...but they under the governing body of MLB...can't MLB use whatever pictures/video clips/etc...to market their product?

It's not a slavery thing...at least that's not how I'm seeing it.

If the commissioner can suspend a player, there certainly are rules that players must follow under league policies, there is an employer/employee relationship. Yes, they get paid by the teams...but the league still has some say over the player's actions.

Consider Dante Stallworth & Michael Vick. The league suspended them. Consider Manny. The league suspended Manny, not the Dodgers.

Maybe other posters are right, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong...but if it's his image, since he was employed by MLB, if that's the contractual agreement, then they can use the image...but I think another poster said that it's not Harmon, but a silhouette not resembling any player.

I would suspect that in the MLB Players Union contract there are terms where there is some type of revenue split for licensing pictures and the like for current & former players. I'm not sure exactly how this pays out (IE: pool shared by all &/or ??) but it's common for pro leagues.

Several former NFL players are suing the NFL & players union over something similar. Don't recall the exact details now but it seems they are not receiving the correct payment for using their likenesses in video games, etc.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by Ump Rube

If you are looking for an interesting read on the subject of the MLB logo, one of the Page 2 writers for ESPN.com did a peice on it here: Uni Watch: Intelligent design - ESPN Page 2

It is part of column he writes called Uni-Watch. It is rather interesting, and fun to read. Here is also a column on Ump Unis: ESPN.com: Page 2 : Uni eye for the ump guy

I knew the AL once wore red jackets, makes sense they would be the ones to try white suits too.

And jeez, Bruce, don't you travel with more than one pair of plate pants?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

And jeez, Bruce, don't you travel with more than one pair of plate pants?

You can tell this author is biased against umpires (who isn't?). He said Froemming "pathetically" kicked the dirt off the plate the rest of the game. So what? The foot-brush works just fine, and I'm sure he didn't look pathetic doing it.

[SethPDX]

I don't think it's possible for Froemming to look pathetic doing anything on the field.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

I don't think it's possible for Froemming to look pathetic doing anything on the field.

On the field, Froemming looked pathetic just squeezing that load into an umpire uniform.

Off the field he looked beyond pathetic when he called an umpire adminstrator a "Jew b!tch."