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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 11:42am
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From what we could hear Beckett didn't say anything to PU...yes, he cussed, we all heard that.
You must be watching a different clip. If you think that rip wasn't directed at Tichenor, you must be losing it.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 11:48am
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Everybody in the stadium knew it was. But he didn't say "________ you"

Sometimes pitchers will give me the stink eye and I know what they're doing, but I'm probably not going to dump him.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 11:52am
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The catcher that jumped up and then charged the ump got what he deserved. He was way out of line. He showed complete lack of respect for the umpire and the game. He was way out of line. That was a major blow up. Way to go Ump!!!!!!!!!111
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 11:54am
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Yep, he knew he was going to get dumped...when F2 turns on an ump, I'm guessing they look at it just like a batter drawing a line in the dirt. Pretty much immediate dump.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 11:55am
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I partially agree with you on the Redmond EJ. I think that we really cannot tell for sure whether is was too quick, but there was not a whole lot of time to say any magic words (and I couldn't see any from the replays last night). BTW (not that T knew it but) this is Red's 1st EJ in his 11 year career. So he is not really one to say magic words (I also know this from my time working as a Ride Operator at the old Camp Snoop in MOA, he used to bring his kids there and was always very nice, even remembered me when I went to Spring Training one year).

Overall, I was surprised that Beckett stayed in the game after that little incident. (So I guess 'Tek did his job.)
As far as the Redmond EJ goes, maybe it's been eleven years, but we don't know what, if anything was leading up to him getting dumped. Maybe he was badgering him for most of the game...we just don't know. He must have said something though...
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 12:30pm
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Charge the umpire and make gestures like that and you're going to get run. Screw this "it's too fast" nonsense. It's the manager's job to argue calls.
I don't disagree, just stating that we've seen MLB umpires seemingly have more restraint. Don't get me wrong, I think he did what he had to do.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 12:55pm
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1. Tichenor blew the play at the plate. Redmond had a good case for argument.
2. When arguing, you can't show disrespect to the umpire by cussing. Gone.
3. Gardenhire is a garden tool, and is always getting run because of his big tool mouth. Gone.
4. Varitek has no business turning around and showing up the umpire. Gone.
5. Francona is also a former rat, and therefore a tool, and said the wrong thing. Gone.

Looked like four solid ejections to me. Screw Gammons and all the rest of the moronic broadcasters who always immediately take the player's and coach's sides in every argument, and never stop to consider the bad behavior that led to the ejections. To them, the umpires are just a bunch of overpaid goons who have no business doing their jobs properly, and should just kowtow to the players and managers.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:03pm
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Harrumph!
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:03pm
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I just thought that four in one inning was cool...
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:04pm
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Harrumph!
I didn't get a harrumph out of that guy!
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:25pm
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I didn't get a harrumph out of that guy!




Let's not forget that Gammons is a season ticket holder in Boston; therefore, a fanboy - it's showing!
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:32pm
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Left Field Corner Has this as ejections 2,3,4,and 5 and then says it is his first Ejs of the year?

That was a mistake. Earlier it shows his first ejection, which was on May 20:

"HP Umpire Todd Tichenor ejected Marlins left fielder Jeremy Hermida to end the bottom of the 10th inning of the Diamondbacks-Marlins game for arguing a called third strike. With two out and one on, Hermida took a 2-2 fastball from Diamondbacks pitcher Tony Pena for a called third strike. Replays indicate the pitch was located above the knees and on the inside corner, the call was correct. At the time of the ejection, the contest was tied, 7-7. The Diamondbacks ultimately won the contest, 11-9."
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:35pm
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As an ex-catcher I will say that Varitek did what he was suppose to do to keep his pitcher in the game. The catcher can be replaced, but loosing a pitcher could have bigger ramifications to the bullpen. I'm sure Varitek knew as soon as he turned around that he would be toast, but it worked. After that outburst somebody had to go..... Varitek decided it would be him.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:40pm
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Everybody in the stadium knew it was. But he didn't say "________ you"

Sometimes pitchers will give me the stink eye and I know what they're doing, but I'm probably not going to dump him.
He would NOT have to say "you" following what he said to warrant an ejection. I'm not putting up with that kind of a display from any player or coach at any level of baseball. How rude to say that in public, much less in front of a ballpark full of fans, many of whom are little children. Doesn't anybody believe in common decency anymore? Religous beliefs or no religious beliefs, it makes no difference, you don't say that.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 01:53pm
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I don't disagree Steve and obviously I'm not, nor will I ever be an MLB umpire, but I'd have to guess that there's not too many ejections going on regarding that type of stuff. MLB could certainly expect more in terms of conduct from their employees though.
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