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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 10:09am
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Delayed dead ball, offense can take result of play or batter gets first base, all other runners advance if forced.
Ah. So the error was not in not calling time for the obstruction but not putting the batter on first. Yeah, the PU put the batter back in the box, but the result of the next pitch helped the batting team more than putting the batter on first did.

Now I know for next time. Thanks, all.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 01:58pm
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Ah. So the error was not in not calling time for the obstruction but not putting the batter on first. Yeah, the PU put the batter back in the box, but the result of the next pitch helped the batting team more than putting the batter on first did.

Now I know for next time. Thanks, all.
I some how doubt that all (any of) the folks griping about the call new this, even though it is where the "fault" lies.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:09pm
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it should be called right away, but if you let the play happened, you can call it whenever...everybody's watching the ball anyway. It's not ideal, but I get annoyed when fans say "you have to call that right away.." not always. yes, that's when it should be called...but if you need a few more seconds to process what you think you heard...there's no harm in taking a couple more seconds.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:31pm
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it should be called right away, but if you let the play happened, you can call it whenever...everybody's watching the ball anyway. It's not ideal, but I get annoyed when fans say "you have to call that right away.." not always. yes, that's when it should be called...but if you need a few more seconds to process what you think you heard...there's no harm in taking a couple more seconds.
It should never be "called" right away, you may give a non-verbal signal right away, but I am not calling anything till all playing action has stopped.

(I take "called" to mean a verbal indication)
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:36pm
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it should be called right away, but if you let the play happened, you can call it whenever....
Uh....no.

Make the "call" immediately to let everyone know you (who's paying attention) that you have CI. Signal but do not verbalize. When the playing action ends, give the verbal.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:42pm
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In a perfect world, as I said "should". Yes, that would be the correct way to do it.

The DDB signal lets those know that you have something. Lighten up folks...wound a little tight today
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:44pm
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In a perfect world, as I said "should". Yes, that would be the correct way to do it.

The DDB signal lets those know that you have something. Lighten up folks...wound a little tight today
No you just have to choose your words more wisely. If officials that understand the rules are picking your words apart how do you think the OP, someone who is unsure of how the rules are enforced, is going to take your words?
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 02:54pm
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good thing I'm not a journalism guy...i don't disagree w/ what you're saying...i'm obviously not as strong at articulating as others on here.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 08:46pm
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Uh....no.

Make the "call" immediately to let everyone know you (who's paying attention) that you have CI. Signal but do not verbalize. When the playing action ends, give the verbal.
That's one thing I TRY to do is pay attention, widen my vision so to speak (type?). They put me at a table almost directly behind home plate. I was looking over the catcher's right shoulder to see the pitcher. And I still didn't see the PU motion the obstruction because I was following the ball. He may have, and probably did the mechanic. But even when doing radio, it amazes me how narrow my vision gets when the ball gets hit with the bat.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 08:56pm
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well, and sometimes you have to hear it...you don't always see it.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 10:38pm
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What is wrong with pointing and saying "that's interference, obstruction (for FED)?" That is what I have been taught. Every other rule infraction on the diamond is made with a verbal and non-verbal signal (safe mechanic, point , whatever). If the players stop due to me calling a rule infraction, so be it. My job is to recognize the infraction.

Are people still using the DDB signal? Really?

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FED:I had the same call. 1st inning B2 is at bat, R2. High pitch comes in I watch the bat clip the glove and B2 pops up. I signal and stated 'That's Obstruction!' F6 catches the pop-up and U1 signals Out. I call time and ask the VC if he wants the CI or the results of the play.

He chose the CI and I placed B@ on 1st base.

The HC comes out ans requests time to discuss what I had called. I explained that I had CI and that the VC was choosing CI over the results of the play. The HC turns to F2 and F2 states it never happened. The HC looks at me and says 'That's an awfull call!' I state Coach we have concluded this conversation. I turn to go back to the plate and the HC yells out 'THAT'S A HORRIBLE CALL' I returned to the HC and state "Coach you are restricted to the bench, I don't want to hear you or see you for the rest of the game.'

The visiting teams wins in the seventh when the home team could not come from behind.
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