Jump turn to 1B/Throw to unoccupied base

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Heck, under FED rules he can throw to a base the runner is feinting an advance to.

JohnnyG,

It is not a balk because the rules state it is permissible for the pitcher to do so.

What's the confusion?

JM

I'm guessing the confusion comes from the old wive's (coach's) tale, "The pitcher can't throw to an unoccupied base."

[johnnyg08]

What if he doesn't throw the ball...then do we have a balk?

Sitch: R1 early breaks for 2B, RH Pitcher jump turns to 1B but doesn't throw to 1B, but then simply throws the ball to 2B

Thanks for clearing this up fellas...Locally I'm getting told balk, on here you're all saying legal. Have I seen the light? Thanks for your help.

[dash_riprock]

Balk. If he "jump turns" to 1st, he must throw there.

[johnnyg08]

okay, dash, so you're the 1st person on here who's saying balk...are you saying balk to the fact that he has to throw there or the fact that he simply has to throw to the base where the play is being made?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

okay, dash, so you're the 1st person on here who's saying balk...are you saying balk to the fact that he has to throw there or the fact that he simply has to throw to the base where the play is being made?

He said "balk" because you changed the play.

In the OP, there's a "in one motion, pitcher jump turns and throws to 2B."

In the revised play, there's a, "jump turns to 1B but doesn't throw to 1B, but then simply throws the ball to 2B."

The OP is legal. The revised play is a balk. See the difference?

[johnnyg08]

okay, yes I see the difference. thank you.

[JPaco54]

I thought you had to step to a base to throw and that a jump turn is illegal.