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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 03:54pm
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Not a new rule at all. I use this rule to protect a baserunner stealing during critical points of the game. Get deep in the box, crowd the plate, square, position the bat at the catchers eye level and don't move an inch no matter where the ball goes. Works very well.

I have to say 99.9999% of the time the HPU calls it a strike even if the pitch is clearly a ball (I know "offering" is irrelevant if the pitch was within the strike zone). I gave up arguing the rule and just look at as an exchange: a strike for a safe advance of a runner.

Any suggestions on how I can take a proactive approach to letting the umpires know this technique we utilize and to pay close attension to the "offering" portion of the rule? I had an umpire get offended when I said something prior to a game about this technique and this rule so.......
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 05:08pm
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personally, I wouldn't bring it up to an umpire during a pregame. if you're really passionate about your point...talk to your local assigner about making it a point of emphasis at one of their clinics or something...I would predict that you'll continue to get a bit of attitude from umps if you bring it up to them as if you know a rule and they don't...of course it's not true of all umpires...just don't be surprised at receiving that type of reaction
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:47am
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Speaking of bunts.

I was at a clinic at the beginning of the season. We were told do not let the batter wave the bat up and down in front of the catcher when attempting to bunt. It's a don't do that! A safety issue because the catcher may not see the ball coming. I have only seen little guys ever do this. Anybody else ever heard of this or has told a batter not to do that?
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 01:03am
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Speaking of bunts.

I was at a two day clinic at the beginning of the season. We were told do not let the batter wave the bat up and down in front of the catcher when attempting to bunt. It's a don't do that! A safety issue because the catcher may not see the ball coming. Anybody else ever heard of this or has told a batter not to do that?
I read a thread among some LL umpires discussing it, but outside of that, no, I don't know anyone who would do this.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 05:37pm
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I read a thread among some LL umpires discussing it, but outside of that, no, I don't know anyone who would do this.
Yes, I heard of a LL guy in my area not allowing this a few years back.

No, I would not say or do anything to the batter, LL game or otherwise.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:59am
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Not a new rule at all. I use this rule to protect a baserunner stealing during critical points of the game. Get deep in the box, crowd the plate, square, position the bat at the catchers eye level and don't move an inch no matter where the ball goes. Works very well.

I have to say 99.9999% of the time the HPU calls it a strike even if the pitch is clearly a ball (I know "offering" is irrelevant if the pitch was within the strike zone). I gave up arguing the rule and just look at as an exchange: a strike for a safe advance of a runner.

Any suggestions on how I can take a proactive approach to letting the umpires know this technique we utilize and to pay close attension to the "offering" portion of the rule? I had an umpire get offended when I said something prior to a game about this technique and this rule so.......
My suggestion, don't suggest anything. We get all the strikes and outs we can and that's one time if it's even close its a strike. That's what the coach wanted and that's what he going to get.

Kind of like a catcher who moves out of the box on the outside corner. He wants a ball, he gets one.

Haven't heard a coach utter a word of complaint either.

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