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What is the outcome of this?
Bases loaded, one out. Batter lifts a fly ball to center which goes over the head of the centerfielder. The CFer retrieves the ball and throws to third. The runner from third scores, the runner from second scores, but the runner from first gets thrown out at third. The defense then properly appeals that the runner from first missed second. The appeal is granted.
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2 runs score. Both the runner that was on 2nd and the one that was on 3rd. Your OP said there was only one out. The appeal would not be necessary as they already retired the runner at third base. If there were two outs in this sitch, still two runs would score as the appeal now becomes a time play.
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No, that statement is not correct. If there were 2 outs at the start of the play, then the appeal of the R1's failure to touch 2B would be a run-nullifying "advantageous apparent 4th out appeal", and no runs would score. Since the R1 was "forced" to 2B at the time of the miss, a proper appeal of his miss is treated as a force out. Since it would be the 3rd out of the half-inning, no runs would score on the play. JM
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R1 is out on the appeal, but the other runners keep the bases to which they had advanced. |
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But if 2 outs, it becomes a "force" situation and no runs score? Appreciate clarification. Thanks! |
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That's correct. As long as the out on the play and the subsequent appeal out are on two different runners, both outs stand. Since, in the OP the R1 was forced to 2B at the time of the miss, his out is a run-nullifying 3rd out of the half-inning. JM
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Does the BR being tagged remove the force on R1? Does it matter whether the BR tagged out before or after he reaches first? Does it matter whether R1 was forced at the time of the pitch or the time he missed second?
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Both runners that scored count. |
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Just to clarify.... You can only "swap" outs by the same runner, not add them together, correct?
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