End of game in Milwaukee

[cc6]

For those of you that are criticizing me for bringing this up, I don't work MLB, so try to keep that in mind. I thought the plate umpire did a poor job of handling the situation, end of story. The catcher looked at him, then when he saw the safe call threw the ball. To me he threw it in frustration at the umpire, and as someone else here pointed out, post-game ejections can happen in the mlb. Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.

Really? In all MLB games, or just yours?

[cc6]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Really? In all MLB games, or just yours?

I said MLB.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

I said MLB.

Your rule reference, please.

[cc6]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Your rule reference, please.

MLBUM 2.19: Throwing equipment in protest of call
Any player throwing equipment in disgust of an umpire's call shall be reported and subject to fine, and if flagrant, to ejection. The offender is to be notified that he is being reported for an equipment violation.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Your refutation of his rule reference, please.

[umpjong]

Nothing in the rule states it is an automatic ejection, and it even states that the act must be done in disgust of an umpires call and it must be flagrant to be an ejection.... I would hope you would not base the throwing of the ball as your sole proof of either of these stipulations. Even at the collegiate level I would not right paper on this unless he added something like "I honestly think you blew that call Mr. Umpire", and then bounced the ball up my skirt......

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Your refutation of his rule reference, please.

I'm not refuting the MBUM, I'm refuting cc6. If you read carefully you will see that his original claim was :

"Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb."


Now then, if yuu read the MLBUM, you'll find:

"MLBUM 2.19: Throwing equipment in protest of call,

"Any player throwing equipment in disgust of an umpire's call shall be reported and subject to fine, and if flagrant, to ejection."

There is nothing AUTOMATIC about an ejection. The umpire must interpret the action and apply his judgement on an individual basis.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

MLBUM 2.19: Throwing equipment in protest of call
Any player throwing equipment in disgust of an umpire's call shall be reported and subject to fine, and if flagrant, to ejection. The offender is to be notified that he is being reported for an equipment violation.

cc6:

You are a college student. Surely you understand the difference between "automatic" and "if flagrant." One requires judgement, the other does not.

An ejection for thrown equipment is not automatic.

[kylejt]

Since when is the game ball "equipment"?

Thank you, Happy Easter, and good night Gracie.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by cc6

MLBUM 2.19: Throwing equipment in protest of call
Any player throwing equipment in disgust of an umpire's call shall be reported and subject to fine, and if flagrant, to ejection. The offender is to be notified that he is being reported for an equipment violation.

And this says post-game ejection where, exactly? In MLB, one cannot be ejected after a game has ended.

[kylejt]

[QUOTE=cc6;595490Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I did not know that. I guess those guys are really blowing it out there, because I see a ton on hammered helmets after bang-bangs at first.

That augerred baseball by the catcher was just general frustration. He didn't turn to the umpire and do it.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by cc6

and as someone else here pointed out, post-game ejections can happen in the mlb.

And as some else pointed out, no they can't. I think people are confusing post-game discipline handed out by the league based on an umpire's report or something similar with the NCAA's rules on post-game ejections.

[SethPDX]

I am being grouped with Tim C., San Diego Steve, Ozzy, Brian Curtin, RichMSN, MrUmpire, and Bob Jenkins?

That's quite a compliment. I never thought I would have earned such an honor at this point in my career!

Back to the topic: So the PU handled it poorly? What would you have liked? Toss him after the game (contrary to OBR) for throwing something (also not a rule)? Maybe then he should have told Lou, "game's over, I'm not listening to you, and your catcher is ejected."

Perhaps the catcher saw the safe sign, was ticked that his team lost, and slammed the ball because he was frustrated.

[realistic]

If the ump did anything it would probably be an equipment violation for slamming the ball.

It was a good call and there will probably no argument at the home plate meeting tonite.