End of game in Milwaukee

[cc6]

Did anybody see the Milwaukee walk off win yesterday in which the Cubs catcher threw the ball into the ground after the umpire called the runner safe? Why did the umpire not eject the catcher? Just because the game is over doesn't mean you can't throw him out. Why did the umpire stand on the field despite the game being over? Why did he leave through the Cub's dugout, and finally why did he accept any argument from Lou Pinella? Once the game is over there is no use hanging around the field.

Edited to add the clip: http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/new...=.jsp&c_id=mil

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by cc6

Did anybody see the Milwaukee walk off win yesterday in which the Cubs catcher threw the ball into the ground after the umpire called the runner safe? Why did the umpire not eject the catcher? Just because the game is over doesn't mean you can't throw him out. Why did the umpire stand on the field despite the game being over? Why did he leave through the Cub's dugout, and finally why did he accept any argument from Lou Pinella? Once the game is over there is no use hanging around the field.

Hey fellas, can I take this one? Can I, can I, please????

1. The game was over and these are grown men, not children. You don't eject grown men after the game is over. And all he did was slam the ball down. So freakin' what?

2. The umpire's dressing room must most certainly be located through that particular dugout (and for no other reason).

3. Lou Pinella is a professional baseball manager, and is therefore afforded the courtesy of arguing the call of an umpire. That's how it goes. These umpires have to deal with these managers for the whole year, and year after year. It's called game management. These umpires don't mind a good argument, and they don't shy away from them.

SUMMARY: These guys are pros, and they don't go around being hotheads with quick, itchy trigger fingers. They know how to deal with pinheads like Sweet Lou.

[UMP25]

Steve, perhaps it's because unlike NCAA, there's no such thing as a post-game ejection in MLB. The league can decide to impose any fines for such actions if deemed necessary, especially if the umpire files a report for the heck of it; but other than that, this isn't NCAA.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Hey fellas, can I take this one? Can I, can I, please????

1. The game was over and these are grown men, not children. You don't eject grown men after the game is over. And all he did was slam the ball down. So freakin' what?

2. The umpire's dressing room must most certainly be located through that particular dugout (and for no other reason).

3. Lou Pinella is a professional baseball manager, and is therefore afforded the courtesy of arguing the call of an umpire. That's how it goes. These umpires have to deal with these managers for the whole year, and year after year. It's called game management. These umpires don't mind a good argument, and they don't shy away from them.

SUMMARY: These guys are pros, and they don't go around being hotheads with quick, itchy trigger fingers. They know how to deal with pinheads like Sweet Lou.

Good explanation, SS! Couldn't have done it better myself.

[SethPDX]

Well played, Steve. But I have a feeling that will not be the end of this thread...

[Tongue-in-cheek] I would also add we don't know why the catcher slammed the ball down. Maybe he was just mad about losing. In this case, the umpire did a fine job being sensitive to the player's need to process the negative emotions he was feeling. [/tongue-in-cheek]

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

Did anybody see the Milwaukee walk off win yesterday in which the Cubs catcher threw the ball into the ground after the umpire called the runner safe? Why did the umpire not eject the catcher? Just because the game is over doesn't mean you can't throw him out. Why did the umpire stand on the field despite the game being over? Why did he leave through the Cub's dugout, and finally why did he accept any argument from Lou Pinella? Once the game is over there is no use hanging around the field.

Because it was not rec league, high school or Little League. It was professional baseball managed very well.

[DG]

Did not look like an argument from Lou, I have seen Lou argue. Looked more like a discussion.

How many here would toss the catcher for this in a HS game?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by DG

Did not look like an argument from Lou, I have seen Lou argue. Looked more like a discussion.

How many here would toss the catcher for this in a HS game?

Not me.

[DG]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Not me.

Me either. I don't see a big deal here. How many times have we seen defensive players throw gloves to the ground on game ending plays? How many times we seen a pitcher throw his glove into the bench when coming off the field after being relieved after giving up a game changing HR?

I walked off the field a week ago with my partner through the dugout of the visiting team who just lost a conference game due to a balk in a tie game in bottom of the 7th. It was an obvious balk and the pitcher was very mad and upset, but I saw no reason to toss him after the game was over.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

You don't eject grown men after the game is over.

Originally Posted by UMP25

there's no such thing as a post-game ejection in MLB.

"Minnesota’s Denard Span was ejected by plate umpire Brian Gorman for arguing after taking a called third strike to end the game"


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[Steve87]

Maybe he was too busy laughing at Koyie Hill's reaction cause the play was not even close.

[cc6]

For those of you that are criticizing me for bringing this up, I don't work MLB, so try to keep that in mind. I thought the plate umpire did a poor job of handling the situation, end of story. The catcher looked at him, then when he saw the safe call threw the ball. To me he threw it in frustration at the umpire, and as someone else here pointed out, post-game ejections can happen in the mlb. Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.

Really? In all MLB games, or just yours?

[cc6]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Really? In all MLB games, or just yours?

I said MLB.

[kylejt]

[QUOTE=cc6;595490Also, thrown equipment is an automatic ejection in the mlb.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I did not know that. I guess those guys are really blowing it out there, because I see a ton on hammered helmets after bang-bangs at first.

That augerred baseball by the catcher was just general frustration. He didn't turn to the umpire and do it.