Who rang up the check swing?

[umpjim]

WS bottom 9th. Lefty at plate. I thought I saw PU go to 1B for checked swing appeal. I gotta be wrong? Right?

[BretMan]

Looked to me like the plate umpire rang him up. He pointed at the batter, as in indicating a swing, then signaled the strike.

[JRutledge]

You got this wrong. He pointed at the batter to signify he had a swing. He never asked for help. That is a common mechanic used by umpires working the plate.

Peace

[umpjim]

Yes, I got to a dvr and you can hear the PU say yes as he points to the batter. I knew I had to be wrong.

[SanDiegoSteve]

And if it's okay with management, I thought that he checked his swing pretty well on that pitch.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

And if it's okay with management, I thought that he checked his swing pretty well on that pitch.

I thought the same in real time, but I don't after seeing a replay. It looked as if the bat was still moving forward as the ball reached the plate, which constitutes an attempt to me.

[MrUmpire]

It was the only check swing call I can remember that FOX did not show a replay from the side...only two front angles.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by umpjim

WS bottom 9th. Lefty at plate. I thought I saw PU go to 1B for checked swing appeal. I gotta be wrong? Right?

You may have gotten that impression because the PU pointed with his left hand instead of his "slot hand" as is currently being taught.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

You may have gotten that impression because the PU pointed with his left hand instead of his "slot hand" as is currently being taught.

I was always taught to point with the "slot hand" or hand closest to the batter, as it were. It requires no excess arm action that could be misconstrued as a different signal, such as asking for help or awarding a base. It looks really sharp, too.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Matt

I thought the same in real time, but I don't after seeing a replay. It looked as if the bat was still moving forward as the ball reached the plate, which constitutes an attempt to me.

I've seen a lot less swing called strike and a lot more swing called ball. It's a judgment call and must be made right away. Kellogg said he went, so he went.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

It was the only check swing call I can remember that FOX did not show a replay from the side...only two front angles.

I knew Fox had to be in on it.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

And if it's okay with management, I thought that he checked his swing pretty well on that pitch.

Be careful now. Sure, it's a truthful observation, but it's critical of an umpire.

[Emperor Ump]

I was taught to always do your pointing with your left hand on an appeal of a check swing or pointing at the batter and saying "yes he did" because it removes all ambiguity of calling a strike.

[justanotherblue]

It's currently being taught that you point with the slot hand, with a firm voice mechanic..yes he did.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Emperor Ump

I was taught to always do your pointing with your left hand on an appeal of a check swing or pointing at the batter and saying "yes he did" because it removes all ambiguity of calling a strike.

I agree about the check swing appeal with the left hand, but why would it matter if someone thought you were calling a strike when you point at the batter and say "yes he did?" You are calling a strike, and if you point right at the batter when you say it, followed by your strike signal, there should be no ambiguity at all.