Ejection Video

Originally Posted by waltjp

Fifty-six total words and 4 instances of the word 'rat' and you're asking in the original post if the umpire was too aggressive?

My thoughts exactly.

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Most of these "rats", if you met them at a bar and started talking baseball with them, you would probably buy them a round!

There are a few coaches who I do not like at all. They have bad reputations concerning pushing umpires right up to a point just before ejecting.

But, I still don't call them "rats". They are coaches/managers. There are Assistant Coaches, and Players, and Fans. Everybody has roles and jobs in baseball.

I have read NOWHERE in a rule book about "rats".

[canadaump6]

I still like the term. To me, a coach is someone who teaches the game and life lessons to his players while respecting all other game participants. I don't think anybody who disrespects an umpire like the one in this video is deserving of the title "coach". "Rat" seems like a more accurate description and I know I am not the first person here to use the term.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by rei

My thoughts exactly.

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Most of these "rats", if you met them at a bar and started talking baseball with them, you would probably buy them a round!

There are a few coaches who I do not like at all. They have bad reputations concerning pushing umpires right up to a point just before ejecting.

But, I still don't call them "rats". They are coaches/managers. There are Assistant Coaches, and Players, and Fans. Everybody has roles and jobs in baseball.

I have read NOWHERE in a rule book about "rats".

Pre-touchy-feely cumbaya singing umpiring came into vogue, they used to teach in umpire school that all coaches are "c*ock s*ckers" and "rats," and that every player is a "rat." That seemed to be how a lot of us learned this back in the 70s and 80s. I guess old habits die hard.

But I have never used this kind of terminology to a coach, manager, or player's face, just out of professional courtesy. Kind of like why sharks don't eat lawyers.

Walt, you're right. Some people haven't earned the right to use the term yet.