Iowa/Dayton

[johnnyg08]

why would they, the league president would've reversed them anyway...what a joke. yep, i agree...the kids had to stay for that fiasco no matter what...or kiss your chance at the show goodbye.

[Spence]

In the video I saw, it seems like the umpires were hesitant at first to get between the two coaches.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/m/con...tid=1688297742

In 20/20 hindsight,could this have been handled better by the umpires?

[JR12]

Thats all they need is to try to get between then and get hurt or be accused of pushing them.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by JR12

Thats all they need is to try to get between then and get hurt or be accused of pushing them.

I don't buy that. They ultimately ended up getting between them anyways. They just waited too long (or at least the younger one did).

Admittedly, even if they did get between them, I'm not sure what they could have done to get them to quit jawing with each other.

What would you have done to try to mitigate the problem?

[JR12]

Originally Posted by Spence

I don't buy that. They ultimately ended up getting between them anyways. They just waited too long (or at least the younger one did).

Admittedly, even if they did get between them, I'm not sure what they could have done to get them to quit jawing with each other.

What would you have done to try to mitigate the problem?

Since I am not a Minor League Ump I'm not sure what I would do. I am sure these guys are trained what they can and can't do in a potentionally violent situation so I'm not going to Mon. night QB them. In the High School age that I work I may try to stand between them, but I am not going to put my hands on them, and If I see that blows are about to be exchanged I'm out of harms way and writing numbers and names and getting someone to call the Police.
I am not there to break up fights. I do that at my full time job. Luckilly I don't Umpire in the same Jurisdiction that I work, so according to my Dept I am expected to call 911 only.

[johnnyg08]

it's not really their duty to break up fights is it?

[Spence]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

it's not really their duty to break up fights is it?

Break up? No. Help prevent?

I realize there's no book on this but I'm simply curious as what type of preventative measures could have taken place.

[mrumpire11]

sure this probably could of been handled better, but the outcome was probably still going to be the same. so you issue warnings or eject the pitcher, at this level you don’t know what these players are going to do. regardless, once the managers start going at it shi* has already hit the fan. this isn't the first time that a league president has reinstated players to finish a game. it happened in back to back games in the south atlantic league last year.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by Spence

In the video I saw, it seems like the umpires were hesitant at first to get between the two coaches.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/m/con...tid=1688297742

In 20/20 hindsight,could this have been handled better by the umpires?

I am not going to question the umpire's actions here and I think that the actions of the League President were apprehensible but it's the Minor's people, what more do you expect?

Now if this were an amateur game such as we do, you have to ask yourself, "Well one of the managers has to cross the field to get nose to nose with the other and I am pretty sure what the "meeting" was going to be about." so I would probably dump the manager who is crossing the field because he is obviously not looking to resolve anything here. I know that a lot of people are asking why not dump F1 for throwing at batters. The problem is, you better be damn sure that F1 is in fact doing this because you will have to explain yourself either to an assigner or in the ejection report. Pitchers do loose control, although, from reading the report, I do not think that loss of control was the case here.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by Spence

In the video I saw, it seems like the umpires were hesitant at first to get between the two coaches.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/m/con...tid=1688297742

In 20/20 hindsight,could this have been handled better by the umpires?

IMO, their biggest mistake was waiting around to let the teams call the League President. I would have gotten the ejected players out of there and started the game. If managers didnt' want to field the team, then a forfeit would be in order.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

IMO, their biggest mistake was waiting around to let the teams call the League President.

That is their right.

I would have gotten the ejected players out of there and started the game. If managers didnt' want to field the team, then a forfeit would be in order.

No you wouldn't. Not if you were a minor leaguge umpire who wanted to keep his job.