The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 08:15am
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
This is a bad, bad precedent.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 08:19am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,797
The worst part is that the kids umpiring this game have no choice but to stay unless they want to piss their careers away. In the real world, we'd head to the car no matter what a league president had to say.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 12:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NY state
Posts: 1,504
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg08
This is a bad, bad precedent.

This is not a precedent. It has happened before. The league president reversed the ejections to allow the game to continue and conclude. He then reinstated the ejections so that he could enforce fines and suspensions.

Doesn't seem all that terrible of a way to handle it, IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 01:08pm
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
i guess i understand that...but the fact that managers had to basically call and complain, then trump the ejections, the reinstate them...I don't know...seems odd to me...somewhat tough on the umpires too...so you ejected somebody, now they get to come back in and play in that same game? I guess I'll never have to worry about it since I'll never work MLB at any level...if that ever happens to me, I'm leaving...they can get some other sucker to come in there and work the game.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 02:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NY state
Posts: 1,504
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg08
i guess i understand that...but the fact that managers had to basically call and complain, then trump the ejections, the reinstate them...I don't know...seems odd to me...somewhat tough on the umpires too...so you ejected somebody, now they get to come back in and play in that same game?
That's the appropriate process. The managers contact the league president if they wish to appeal the ejectons to allow the game to continue.

The umpires did their job, now the league president does his.

Those ejections reinstated are accompanied by fines and suspensions. A fine to a Single A player and manager is more consequential than one to a ML player or manager.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 02:26pm
JJ JJ is offline
Veteran College Umpire
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: IN
Posts: 1,122
It's not a great video, but here's some of it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e36dZ...eature=related

I know the plate umpire - once things settle down I'll see what I can find out -

JJ
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 04:16pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 230
"Things got heated in a hurry at Fifth Third Field when Castillo (0-2) beaned Dayton shortstop Zachary Kozart with one on and no outs in the opening frame.

Kozart left the game
"

Considering there was a HBP in the top half, I would probably on my toes.

"but the hostility started to build when Brandon Waring grounded a ball past Castillo toward second baseman Gian Guzman. Castillo and Guzman collided as Waring reached base safely, but Guzman suffered a broken leg and left the contest on a stretcher.

Denis Phipps followed with a two-run double and Devin Mesoraco added a two-RBI base hit to give the Dragons a 4-0 lead. Angel Cabrera, who had lifted the Dragons to a 4-3 victory with a walk-off homer in the bottom of the ninth on Wednesday night, was plunked by Castillo."


Castillo should've been tossed. Probably the manager as well.

"An agitated Cabrera took first base and Keltavious Jones grounded into a force play, but the Chiefs took exception to Cabrera's hard slide into shortstop Nate Samson."

Cabrera is now done, or at least warned. The rest of the game should now go off without any problems.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/n...milb&fext=.jsp
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 25, 2008, 06:50pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,118
I am listening to the game right now...I checked the box score-there were three HPB the night before.

The Peoria announcer is about three hundred times better than i would have expected a Single A Radio guy to be but, he said nothing about the second HPB in the bottom of the first.

Here comes the hard slide...he does not even mention it was a hard slide.

Now, during the next batter, he says that the "Umpire" was pointint towards the Chiefs dugout and bullpen....then all hell breaks lose. Pick it up at about 46:00 ...you have to register but it is free. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...8&ymd=20080724 click on the little speaker by the Peoria game.

Joe In Missouri
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dayton article- short honeymoon for pros apparently DIV2ump Baseball 35 Tue Jun 27, 2006 08:19pm
MSU vs Iowa Bandit Basketball 12 Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:51am
umpire school near dayton ohio? help! r2young3390 Softball 1 Sun Aug 08, 2004 06:57pm
DePaul/Dayton whistleone Basketball 19 Fri Mar 19, 2004 06:19pm
looking for refs for tournament in Dayton OH jasonboom Basketball 0 Tue Jan 18, 2000 04:21pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:06am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1