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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 11:21am
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Guys, I agree that this is not umpire interference but if I was the BU in this game I would be trying to find a way to help my stupid a$$ idiotic numb nut PU out of a jam that gives one team an advantage to which they are not entitled to by rule. That is why I brought up NFHS R1-S2-A3g. I think we all agree that this umpire was really asleep at the wheel.

But the PU in this game is indicative of the type of unpires in this league. Last night the BU never once watched the B/R to see if he touched first base as he rounded the base. Twice the B/R missed first base and he didn't see it. When the appeal was made in the first instance he didn't have a clue as to what call to make. The second time B/R missed first base he hit a "ground double". A dead ball appeal was made and he said he didn't know if the B/R touched first base but it didn't matter because he had awarded the B/R second base because of the "ground double." And even after the second appeal he still hadn't learned that he should be watching the B/R. Thank goodness I don't umpire with these guys because none of them umpire high school baseball.

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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 11:29am
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Never invoke 10-2-3 (or 9.01c in OBR) simply because you don't like what the other rules count or omit as an infraction.
Amen, brother!!

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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Guys, I agree that this is not umpire interference but if I was the BU in this game I would be trying to find a way to help my stupid a$$ idiotic numb nut PU out of a jam that gives one team an advantage to which they are not entitled to by rule. That is why I brought up NFHS R1-S2-A3g.
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R1-S2-A3g is only used when a situation is not covered by rule. Umpire interference is covered by rule. We don't use R1-S2-A3g to augment an existing rule.

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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 12:17pm
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Guys, I agree that this is not umpire interference

Shoulda stopped your post right there. The 'doesn't feel right', 'make it fair', 'work it all out' mentality will dig you a hole faster than you can blink, and a rat will pin you down because you then can't support your emotional decision with a ruleset. Let the fans worry about 'doesn't seem right'..that's their problem.

UI is fully covered in the book, this is clearly not such a case, rule and move on. If your partner learns from this error, then it was not wasted time.
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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 12:23pm
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If you rule UI in this matter, you have absolutely no rule support to convince the protest committee that you ruling shuld be upheld.

Live with the grief, tell the partner in question after the game that he's in over his head and advise the assignor that you are not going to work with him ever again.
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Old Thu Jul 17, 2008, 12:50pm
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Guys I agree, it is NOT umpire interference. I was just a spectator at the game and thankful that I was not one of the two (2), yes two BU's in this game because I don't know which I would want to do first, beat the PU over the head with a bat or climb under a rock and hide from everybody. I agree that the PU in this situation has to eat a spread load of horse manure for screwing the pooch. It is just another example of untrained and unregistered officials screwing everything up and giving real sports officials a bad name. I think we can all agree on that.

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