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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 07:31pm
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I'm I missing something here?

The only time you can undo a foul call is on a fence clearing HR.

There's only two choices on this play. Foul, because he was hit in the box, or Out because he was hit out of the box. You can't put the "Foul" back in the bottle after you call it.

Of course "TIME!" would have been the correct call by U1.
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 10:21pm
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It also showcases the lack of intelligence of ML managers. Either manager had grounds to protest the game, but nothing...................
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 10:43pm
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You can't put the "Foul" back in the bottle after you call it.
Apparently, you've never seen Bruce Froemming undo one of his calls.....
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 11:56pm
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I'm I missing something here?

The only time you can undo a foul call is on a fence clearing HR.
There is precedent in the MLB for changing a foul call to fair from an MLB game a couple of years ago. In that game, there was a hit down the line that was initially called foul. The umpires for whatever reason conferred and changed the call to fair and placed the runners.
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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 12:31am
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I don't take what MLB umpires do, or don't do, as some sort of Supreme Court decision. They were wrong to do what they did in that situation, and the one we're talking about.

They were wrong, and they wear funny looking smocks.

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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 10:45am
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Please don't get me wrong, I would never use that decision made in an MLB game as a basis for doing so in a game I work. That does not change the fact that changing a foul to fair seems to be a practice that is gaining acceptance at the MLB level.

Thanks for the pic, that is good for a "case of the Mondays".
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Old Wed Jul 09, 2008, 10:28pm
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Maybe I'm issing something but isn't the ball dead as soon as any umpire calls foul? Even by mistake?

I'm trying to think of any situation where you can award bases on a foul ball and can't.
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Old Wed Jul 09, 2008, 10:40pm
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Maybe I'm issing something but isn't the ball dead as soon as any umpire calls foul? Even by mistake?

I'm trying to think of any situation where you can award bases on a foul ball and can't.
True in FED, but in OBR if everybody acts like they did not hear you a FOUL can be reversed. Example, shot down the RF line, you call FOUL, Oops, I did not mean that, runner, F9, infielders, nobody does anything different than they would have done on a fair.
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2008, 08:02am
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Please don't get me wrong, I would never use that decision made in an MLB game as a basis for doing so in a game I work. That does not change the fact that changing a foul to fair seems to be a practice that is gaining acceptance at the MLB level.

Thanks for the pic, that is good for a "case of the Mondays".
Heck -- there was (according to the local fish wrap) a "catch triple play" reversed to a "single all runners advance one base" last night in some MLB game I don't care about. Lah me.
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