Calls that may end a game

[thumpferee]

The luxury of instant replay!

I've been calling B-Ball for 12 years. When I first saw the play, It didn't appear to be enough contact to call a foul in "that situation". But on the replay he got killed.lol

But come on, he took a dribble and threw up a 38 footer, not a good shot. And even if the foul was called, it would have been on the floor IMO. So we're shooting bonus shots, not 3. (then again, with the NBA's continuation?)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

But come on, he took a dribble and threw up a 38 footer, not a good shot. And even if the foul was called, it would have been on the floor IMO. So we're shooting bonus shots, not 3. (then again, with the NBA's continuation?)

Actually the NBA rule is the same as the NCAA and NF Continuous motion rule. There is nothing special about the NBA rule on shooting.

Peace

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually the NBA rule is the same as the NCAA and NF Continuous motion rule. There is nothing special about the NBA rule on shooting.

Peace

I know there is no difference in the rule J, my point was it was not a shooting foul, by rule. Except maybe in the NBA where they might/would have gave him 3 shots if the foul was called.

JMO

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

I know there is no difference in the rule J, my point was it was not a shooting foul, by rule. Except maybe in the NBA where they might/would have gave him 3 shots if the foul was called.

JMO

I doubt seriously that this would have been called a shooting foul considering that Barry after contact took about 2 dribbles and then put up a shot.

Peace

[canadaump6]

Tim,

I agree that if we get a bad angle and don't see the play properly, we should use all relevant clues to help us make the most likely call. However, I do not think we should rely on what was "probably the right call" to help us get through games. The only time I will use something other than my eyes to make a call is on a possible hit by pitch, catcher's interference, or foul tip.

You say don't assume - well you're assuming that what you saw is actually what happened every time

Positioning is key to seeing the play properly. If an umpire is in position and still has to look for clues, then something is probably wrong.

[TussAgee11]

What's wrong with being in a perfect position to umpire a play and looking for clues as to what happened?

As PU, you are in perfect position to see a hit batsman. But we don't always know if it happens. Bat comes down and hits dirt, ball bounces off glove, and I can't distinguish a noise. Perhaps the ball hit him, perhaps it didn't. Sensory overload for the PU here. Batter's initial reaction will be a pretty good clue to figure it out and get the call right, among other clues, such as sound, sight, change of direction of the ball. Use all the info you can get.