Base ump showing count on chest.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

My partners never request it. It's covered in our pregame. If PU needs input on the count, he checks with the official book.

Fair enough.

I occasionally work places where the book/and or scoreboard may not be too accurate. Sometimes in our pregames we'll go over these situation, and make sure everyone is on the same page. If the scoreboard is showing 3-1, and the PU's indicator says 2-1, but he just got clocked by a foul ball, he might go to me for a silent confirmation before he corrects the book. Happens all the time.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

If the scoreboard is showing 3-1, and the PU's indicator says 2-1, but he just got clocked by a foul ball, he might go to me for a silent confirmation before he corrects the book. Happens all the time.

Are you saying that you consider the scoreboard and the book to be one and the same? I've never had a game in which the scoreboard was operated by the same person keeping the official book.

[eagle_12]

The only time that I show the count while BU is 3-2 2 out with a runner on base. I've picked this up from pro level umpies. I think it's just a way for all of us to know hey, runner might be/is moving on the pitch, and to hold your ground worry about the ball rather than the runner

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by eagle_12

The only time that I show the count while BU is 3-2 2 out with a runner on base. I've picked this up from pro level umpies. I think it's just a way for all of us to know hey, runner might be/is moving on the pitch, and to hold your ground worry about the ball rather than the runner

PBUC has the guys showing 3-2 every time runners might be moving (i.e. R1; R1, R2; R1, R3 regardless of outs; or R1, R2 R3 2 outs. it shows up in the evals as part of communication.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

PBUC has the guys showing 3-2 every time runners might be moving (i.e. R1; R1, R2; R1, R3 regardless of outs; or R1, R2 R3 2 outs. it shows up in the evals as part of communication.

That's when I tend to do it because it means the rotations might be different.

Originally Posted by jkumpire

I have never flashed a wrong count to kid who asks, but if I do and the fielder messes something up, then it isn't my fault he can't keep 4 balls/3strikes straight in his head.

Whose fault is it that you can't keep 4 balls/3 strikes straight in your head?

[jkumpire]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Whose fault is it that you can't keep 4 balls/3 strikes straight in your head?

My Wife. Who's yours?

[UmpTTS43]

I don't subscribe to definite when-to's when it comes to the count. I feel this is all part of game management, such as when to clean the plate without having to call time. My style will differ from yours, I'm sure, but if the base ump has to ask me for the count, then one of two things are happening: 1) I'm not managing my game right, or 2) he's not paying attention. There is a rhythm and flow to every game. Find it, establish it, whatever, and you will be allright.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Are you saying that you consider the scoreboard and the book to be one and the same? I've never had a game in which the scoreboard was operated by the same person keeping the official book.

Then you have never umpired in San Diego, California, the cheapo capital of the United States.

We have the U.S. Open at Torrey Pines next month, and this city was too cheap to hire 24 hour security for the course, and it was badly vandalized last week. Totally stupid. It could only happen in America's Cheapest City (but not to live in, mind you...).