Live Ball Appeal Questions

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Now you said LL so if you are talking about 60ft. baseball that's another story.

The answers I gave are for the BIG diamond

Pete Booth

The answers are the same in 60 ft LL.

[TussAgee11]

And if the defense loses their chance to make an appeal based off an offensive action, they still can try to do it again.

Sitch: R1, 2 outs. F1 turns to appeal 3rd base on a runner that just scored. R1 breaks for 2nd, F1 throws to F5 who comes off the base before he catches in order to throw to F4. R1 is subsequently put out in a run-down. The defense then executes the appeal at 3rd base.

Ruling: The appeal shall be ruled upon by the umpire since it is an advantagous 4th out appeal. The defense did not lose their right to appeal because a play was initiated by the offense.

Just to add on to the OP...

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

The defense did not lose their right to appeal because a play was initiated by the offense.

True in FED and NCAA.

False in OBR and LL.

[canadaump6]

Why not true in OBR? The appeal supersedes the 3rd out.

[UmpJM]

canadaump6,

Under OBR rules, the defense loses it's right to appeal a baserunning infraction if they attempt to make a "post continuous action" play (whether successful or not, whether the defense initiated the "action" of the play or not) or initiate delivery of a pitch prior to making the appeal.

In TussAgee's sitch, the appeal would always be denied under OBR rules, while it could be upheld under NCAA or FED rules since the offense initiated the action of the subsequent play.

As Rich said.

JM