Foot on base

[Robert G]

R2 on second, F1 try's pickoff as R2 beats the throw & tag but is foot is on F4 foot that is on the base.
F4 tags him again.
Is he safe or out?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Robert G

R2 on second, F1 try's pickoff as R2 beats the throw & tag but is foot is on F4 foot that is on the base.
F4 tags him again.
Is he safe or out?

If the runner is legally blocked from the base by a fielder with the ball and this prevents the runner from tagging the base, then the runner is out if tagged before touching the base.

In this case we have a foot blocking the runner from tagging the base.

Is he safe or out?

[DG]

FED change this year. Fielder must have the ball to block a base or obstruction is called. Not clear here whether fielder had the ball so can't tell if he is out or advanced to 3B (if a FED game).

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by DG

FED change this year. Fielder must have the ball to block a base or obstruction is called. Not clear here whether fielder had the ball so can't tell if he is out or advanced to 3B (if a FED game).

I agree, thats what I meant by "legally" but you explained it better.

Thanks

[Daryl H. Long]

Think about this.

Bases are 15 inches square (NF 1-2-9)
A size 16 shoe is 12.5 inches long.
To totally block the base a player would have to wear a size 24 shoe.
Probability of a player in HS having a foot this big = ~0%

Solution: Runner is out by being tagged while foot touching the base.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Daryl H. Long

Think about this.

Bases are 15 inches square (NF 1-2-9)
A size 16 shoe is 12.5 inches long.
To totally block the base a player would have to wear a size 24 shoe.
Probability of a player in HS having a foot this big = ~0%

Solution: Runner is out by being tagged while foot touching the base.

So if F1 blocks the back 12.5 inches of the bag on a pick to 1B you are going to rule an out because the front 2.5 inches was "available" to the runner diving back to the bag?

I don't believe this was FED's intent for the rule change.

[Daryl H. Long]

Originally Posted by Bren

Disagree, Mr. LONG, 3.5" is NOT good enough.

Math quiz.

15" - 12.5" = 2.5"

Case 8.3.2 Sit G and Case8.3.2 Sit L agree with me.

And if 2.5" is good enough 3.5" surely is.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Bren

Disagree, Mr. LONG, 3.5" is NOT good enough.

Of course it is!! (please re-assure us. please!) haha

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Robert G

R2 on second, F1 try's pickoff as R2 beats the throw & tag but is foot is on F4 foot that is on the base.
F4 tags him again.
Is he safe or out?

Here's the OP. As far as I can make out, runner's foot is on F4's foot, which is on the bag. So the runner was blocked off the bag. So OBS is possible.

I'm not saying it's OBS: you'd have to make that ruling based on what happened.