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Old Sun Apr 06, 2008, 11:04am
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Garth,

The initial info was that it was going to be OK for the pro guys to post. As we have seen the past couple of days MLB has asked Rob to take the site down, so I guess that changed.

My bad. I hadn't looked at it in a couple of weeks. I didn't know it was gone.

I was confused though. A number of MiLB umpires had explained that, as Tom said, the CBA prohibited their participation in public boards. When Rob started requesting they "join" his board, I knew some were hesitant, but followed through when they saw MLB umpires posting there.

It is regrettable that it's gone. RIP.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 07:06pm
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Guys, 50 of your breathren are losing their jobs, no fault of their own.
They could play hardball and find how quick the CPL can hire 50 new and improved replacements.
Wouldn't it be better to include those 14 young men in your new group of 64 and mentor them?
I know the concept is stange. But it also allows you the opportunity to set them straight.
If you do a good job, most of them won't show up for the 1st ballgame.
The rest will leave as soon as it gets too hot for them.
Once, your down to 50 again, or accept 1 or 2 of the best of them, its back to baseball for the rest of you.
No one cares about your position, nor your feelings, nor hesitate to find their place on an empty CPL diamond.
There are 100's of other umpires waiting for some opportunity to work in the CPL and your walking out and making room for them.
Just thought I would take the opportunity to mention it 2 months before you walk away from a good thing.

PS: I'm available June thru August. Have place to stay in DC, Knoxville, Raleigh and can rent place in between.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 08:38pm
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You still don't get it.

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Guys, 50 of your breathren are losing their jobs, no fault of their own.
They could play hardball and find how quick the CPL can hire 50 new and improved replacements.
Wouldn't it be better to include those 14 young men in your new group of 64 and mentor them?
I know the concept is stange. But it also allows you the opportunity to set them straight.
If you do a good job, most of them won't show up for the 1st ballgame.
The rest will leave as soon as it gets too hot for them.
Once, your down to 50 again, or accept 1 or 2 of the best of them, its back to baseball for the rest of you.
I will try to explain again. I am sorry that I have been ineffective at describing how the CPL has been staffed over the last 11 years. So let me try again:

The CPL hired a staff of 50+ umpires most of whom are D1 staff umpires to work its games. The CPL decided to contract with PBUC instead, for 14 umpires to make up its staff. There is no association that books the CPL, so there is no association for the new 14 to join. The CPL staff was released on mass by the league to make way for the 14 umpires who may or may not have been to the PBUC evaluation camp depending upon how many jobs there ultimately are. The CPL, from what I understand, plans to pay these umpires between $50 and $75 per game. The former CPL staff was paid $125 per man per game.

I hope I have done a better job at making this clear. If I haven't, I will try again.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 09:00pm
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I will try to explain again. I am sorry that I have been ineffective at describing how the CPL has been staffed over the last 11 years. So let me try again:

The CPL hired a staff of 50+ umpires most of whom are D1 staff umpires to work its games. The CPL decided to contract with PBUC instead, for 14 umpires to make up its staff. There is no association that books the CPL, so there is no association for the new 14 to join. The CPL staff was released on mass by the league to make way for the 14 umpires who may or may not have been to the PBUC evaluation camp depending upon how many jobs there ultimately are. The CPL, from what I understand, plans to pay these umpires between $50 and $75 per game. The former CPL staff was paid $125 per man per game.

I hope I have done a better job at making this clear. If I haven't, I will try again.
That was a wonderful explanation.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 08:45pm
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No one cares about your position, nor your feelings, nor hesitate to find their plave on an empty CPL diamond.
There are 100's of other umpires waiting for some opportunity to work in the CPL and your walking out and making room for them.
Just thought I would take the opportunity to mention it 2 months before you walk away from a good thing.

PS: I'm available June thru August. Have place to stay in DC, Knoxville, Raleigh and can rent place in between.

There are those who care about the positions. No one has asked anyone to care about his feelings. Again, the CPL umpires did not walk out.

If you are interested in working the CPL, while the DC and Knoxville living arrangements probably won't be helpful the Raleigh arrangement may be but I don't see how under the current agreement with PBUC. I would suggest that you contact PBUC or the CPL directly because there is no association, group, chapter, or whatever that has covered or will cover the games in the CPL. Although it is my understanding that you will, at least initially, have to complete the PBUC evaluation camp and failed at getting a job in the game.
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