Batter's hands

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by rngrck

Ozzy- I think it may be time for you to retire. Try to go back 30 yrs when you were a rookie and needed some clarification or re- assurance on something that was not in the rules. Give us newbees a break!! If you have nothing positive to offer, please refrain.

Over the decades I've heard (and maybe at one time believed) just about all the myths and misconceptions about the rules, but this is the first time I have ever heard that holding your hands in the strike zone might be a problem.

[rngrck]

Well I got news for you!! I had a batter extending hands so far over the plate, that the pitcher complained he couldn't see F2's target. Well, I agreed and had the batter back off the hands. In this case, The B1 was deliberately trying to distract the pitcher. Thats was my ruling and I'm sticking to it. LOL.

[Welpe]

Where in the heck was the catcher's target for the batter to be obstructing the pitcher's view of it?

I'd leave this alone. What level of baseball was this?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by rngrck

Well I got news for you!! I had a batter extending hands so far over the plate, that the pitcher complained he couldn't see F2's target. Well, I agreed and had the batter back off the hands. In this case, The B1 was deliberately trying to distract the pitcher. Thats was my ruling and I'm sticking to it. LOL.

Well back when I was a rookie, we looked things up for ourself because we didn't have an internet. But us old guys understand how difficult it is to research something when there is always someone who can give you the answer, (we called that the easy way out).

It is one thing to ask a question as a rookie, it is entirely rude to ignore the right answer an tell us "your doing it your way."

I'm with you OZ!!!!

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Well back when I was a rookie, we looked things up for ourself because we didn't have an internet. But us old guys understand how difficult it is to research something when there is always someone who can give you the answer, (we called that the easy way out).

Are you saying you've never asked for rules help on this board?
If you have then your response may be a bit hypocritical.

RNG could have looked for hours regarding his question and never found anything, obviously since there was nothing to find and then came to the board for help from the old timers.
If, as you say, he's taking the "easy way out" it's only because you are making the assumption that he didn't search the book prior to asking.

[rngrck]

Thank you Co !!!!!

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by CO ump

Are you saying you've never asked for rules help on this board?
If you have then your response may be a bit hypocritical.

RNG could have looked for hours regarding his question and never found anything, obviously since there was nothing to find and then came to the board for help from the old timers.
If, as you say, he's taking the "easy way out" it's only because you are making the assumption that he didn't search the book prior to asking.

Your point is well taking however, if he is going to ask for the proper ruling and then imply that he was going to handle his own way anyhow, ("Thats was my ruling and I'm sticking to it").

Then why ask for help?

[w_sohl]

That was his STORY and he is sticking to it.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Your point is well taking however, if he is going to ask for the proper ruling and then imply that he was going to handle his own way anyhow, ("Thats was my ruling and I'm sticking to it").

Then why ask for help?

Agreed
But I felt that was a different issue

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by rngrck

Well I got news for you!! I had a batter extending hands so far over the plate, that the pitcher complained he couldn't see F2's target. Well, I agreed and had the batter back off the hands. In this case, The B1 was deliberately trying to distract the pitcher. Thats was my ruling and I'm sticking to it. LOL.

So you invented a rule? Not a recommended practice.

Exactly what level is this that a batter can hold the bat in such a manner that his arms blodk F2's vision all while staying in the batter's box?

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by GarthB

So you invented a rule? Not a recommended practice. ...

Not only "not recommended", it's illegal per:

Rule 12.06

(c)(2) During the course of the game ONLY COACHES are allowed to make up rules which have no foundation in the text, official interpretations, or history of the rules. APPROVED RULING: While the umpire may, at his sole discretion, entertain discussion of such made up rules with the coach (strictly for the entertaiment value), there will be NO ENFORCEMENT of any such rules.

(I was a coach when I made that one up, so it's legal.)

BTW, the batter does not have the right to see the pitcher's eyes either, should that come up in one of your games.

JM

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

BTW, the batter does not have the right to see the pitcher's eyes either, should that come up in one of yours game.

JM

I assume you meant one of youse games.

[UmpJM]

Well I AM from Chicago!

(How embarrassing. )

JM

[Steven Tyler]

Damn, there are some bipolar son of a bass fishermen on here.........

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Well I AM from Chicago!

(How embarrassing. )

JM

Hey! Watch it there!