Church vs State

[Lawrence.Dorsey]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I cannot speak for every state, but in the four states that I have officiated H.S. basketball (Ohio, Michigan, Florida, and California) there is no seperation of public and private schools. I also know that there is no seperation in the following states, because I have friends that officiate in them: Indiana, Kentucky, Tenneessee, Connecticut, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, New Jersey, Mass., Vermont, and Maine.

I knew that private schools, particularly Catholic schools, can have some very powerful programs in some sports. For instance, our sons' swim for Toledo (Ohio) Start H.S. and the swimming secionals are today. Toledo St. Francis de Sales H.S. is going for its 42nd or 43rd (I cannot remember which) straight sectional championship. But that is life.

I feeling is if that the school has the money, let him in.

MTD, Sr.

Mark,

I'll have to make a correction here regarding NC. There separate governing bodies for the public and private schools here in NC. I've listed the web links to the two of them. I know of only one private school, Charlotte Catholic, that belongs to the public school association. It is is a large private school and is able to compete with the public schools in all sports including football. Public schools and private schools do play each other in holiday tournaments but I don't think they ever play each other during the regular season (I can't be completely sure on that one). However, they do not compete (with the exception of Charlotte Catholic) in the playoffs. There are separate playoffs for public and private schools.


Lawrence

Public Schools- www.nchsaa.org
Private Schools- www.ncisaa.org

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Mark,

I'll have to make a correction here regarding NC. There separate governing bodies for the public and private schools here in NC. I've listed the web links to the two of them. I know of only one private school, Charlotte Catholic, that belongs to the public school association. It is is a large private school and is able to compete with the public schools in all sports including football. Public schools and private schools do play each other in holiday tournaments but I don't think they ever play each other during the regular season (I can't be completely sure on that one). However, they do not compete (with the exception of Charlotte Catholic) in the playoffs. There are separate playoffs for public and private schools.


Lawrence

Public Schools- www.nchsaa.org
Private Schools- www.ncisaa.org

Lawrence:

Thanks, I stand corrected. I got the impression that the schools were not seperated due to conversations with my friends in North Carolina.

MTD, Sr.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Mark,

I'll have to make a correction here regarding NC. There separate governing bodies for the public and private schools here in NC. I've listed the web links to the two of them. I know of only one private school, Charlotte Catholic, that belongs to the public school association. It is is a large private school and is able to compete with the public schools in all sports including football. Public schools and private schools do play each other in holiday tournaments but I don't think they ever play each other during the regular season (I can't be completely sure on that one). However, they do not compete (with the exception of Charlotte Catholic) in the playoffs. There are separate playoffs for public and private schools.


Lawrence

Public Schools- www.nchsaa.org
Private Schools- www.ncisaa.org

Independent schools in NC can choose to join NCHSAA or NCISAA. Cardinal Gibbons in Raleigh is another that has chosen to be a member of NCHSAA. They play at the 2A level. I'm sure there are others.

[Lawrence.Dorsey]

DG,

I didn't know that Gibbons had joined also. Makes sense, they are a large Catholic high school as well. If you consider the charter(such as Gray Stone Day here in Stanly Co.) and special schools (such as the 2 schools for the deaf) as public, then Gibbons and Charlotte Catholic are the only 2 private schools I could find that are members of the NCHSAA. You are right that private schools CAN join NCHSAA, but in almost all cases they choose to join NCISAA.

Lawrence

[SAump]

Texas is believed to be one of three states in which private schools typically are not allowed to compete with public schools in statewide extracurricular organizations.

Source: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/sta...e.35bc767.html
Provides more detail than I care to state and perhaps more useful to interested parties here who may follow the case.

Cornerstone filed the suit in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas.

Source: http://www.christianpost.com/article...tic_League.htm
The media only reports what took place. The initial court decision favored the UIL. No further info on appeal status.

Admission of error in OP. I said it was a large school. Facts from article cited above lead me to believe it is actually a smaller private school and has a less successful TAPPS athletic program than OP may indicate.

UIL magnate schools attract students from across nearby district boundaries. Some of the state's most successful high school programs fail to mention star players moving into the district during the eighth grade.

UIL spokesman, JW Rutledge, coached at successful 5A Judson HS. Middle school teams played under the guise of larger high school "farm" systems. JW fought repeated attempts to build another public high school in his own district. Judson swelled to over 4,000 students during his tenure as football coach. A new high school was approved after he resigned as football coach. Why does he fear competiton from smaller private schools?