The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 10:20am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by briancurtin
anything and everything about 'rising' fastballs
Do you dare to dispute Daniel Bernoulli?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 11:54am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 126
Noooooooooo!

Don't do it Dash....

Aw crap, it's probably too late!

D
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 11:58am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,428
I promise I won't do it. I suspect this subject has previously been debated ad nauseum. Nevertheless, I would just like to read the debate out of interest. Can you tell me where I can find it? Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Great State of North Carolina
Posts: 170
Mythbusters busted the 'Rising Fastball' sometime last year...
__________________
Warren
www.umpire-empire.com
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 02:15pm
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
"Tie goes to the runner...you otta know that one by now blue!"
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 02:58pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,458
"Don't talk to my catcher"

"Where was THAT pitch?"

"I wasn't talking to YOU"
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 03:15pm
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
That's a good one too.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 12:19pm
BigGuy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg08
"Tie goes to the runner...you otta know that one by now blue!"
So what's wrong with that statement? Tie does go to the runner. See FED 8.4.1f. By definition the fielder must make the play on the runner/batter-runner BEFORE they reach the respective base. A tie implies the same time. Of course there are those who say a tie isn't possible. They are two mutually exclusive events and can occur at the same time.

f. after a dropped third strike (see 8-4-1e) or a fair hit, if the ball held by any fielder touches the batter before the batter touches first base; or if any fielder, while holding the ball in his grasp, touches first base or touches first base with the ball before the batter-runner touches first base:
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 01:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigGuy
So what's wrong with that statement? Tie does go to the runner. See FED 8.4.1f. By definition the fielder must make the play on the runner/batter-runner BEFORE they reach the respective base. A tie implies the same time. Of course there are those who say a tie isn't possible. They are two mutually exclusive events and can occur at the same time.

f. after a dropped third strike (see 8-4-1e) or a fair hit, if the ball held by any fielder touches the batter before the batter touches first base; or if any fielder, while holding the ball in his grasp, touches first base or touches first base with the ball before the batter-runner touches first base:
The problem is that you didn't read 8.4.2


Art. 2... Any runner is out when he:

i. does not retouch his base before a fielder tags him out or holds the ball while touching such base after any situation (8-2-1, 2-3 and 4). Umpire may also call him out at end of playing action upon proper and successful appeal. Also, it is not necessary for runner to retouch his base after a foul tip (2-16-2); or

j. fails to reach the next base before a fielder either tags the runner out or holds the ball while touching such base, after runner has been forced from the base he occupied because the batter became a runner (with ball in play) when other runners were on first base, or on first and second, or on first, second and third. There shall be no accidental appeals on a force play.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 05:32pm
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigGuy
So what's wrong with that statement? Tie does go to the runner. See FED 8.4.1f. By definition the fielder must make the play on the runner/batter-runner BEFORE they reach the respective base. A tie implies the same time. Of course there are those who say a tie isn't possible. They are two mutually exclusive events and can occur at the same time.

f. after a dropped third strike (see 8-4-1e) or a fair hit, if the ball held by any fielder touches the batter before the batter touches first base; or if any fielder, while holding the ball in his grasp, touches first base or touches first base with the ball before the batter-runner touches first base:
There are not ties, the runner is either safe or the runner is out. When the crowd "sees" a tie...many, many, times it's an out, because it's not really a tie. I think you might just be trying to stir the pot though...so I'm only partially biting.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 06:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,491
Send a message via AIM to RPatrino Send a message via Yahoo to RPatrino
Daniel Bearnoulli? Is he taking Froemming's place?

"That's not your pitch, Johnny"
__________________
Bob P.

-----------------------
We are stewards of baseball. Our customers aren't schools or coaches or conferences. Our customer is the game itself.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 07:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
AD as you pull in the parking lot, "Your partner just called and he's stuck at work."
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 22, 2008, 10:42pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640
Actual utterance of a young partner of mine who was itching to get behind the plate:

"I forgot to bring my base hat and my plate hat is too tight to wear on the bases."

Ummm...sure, son, you can have the plate.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 02:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 858
Quote:
Originally Posted by BretMan
Actual utterance of a young partner of mine who was itching to get behind the plate:

"I forgot to bring my base hat and my plate hat is too tight to wear on the bases."
If his plate hat is too tight to wear on the bases, wouldn't this same hat be too tight while doing the plate? Perhaps there's some head shrinking going on when he's behind the mask.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Annoying catcher njdevs00cup Baseball 13 Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:15am
Help Wanted: Annoying Mr. Grammar Guy Back In The Saddle Basketball 14 Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:02pm
Annoying Rat umpire99 Baseball 13 Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:41pm
Now I think I've heard everything umpduck11 Baseball 21 Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:30am
All right, all right, I've heard enough... Dan_ref Basketball 41 Sat Jun 01, 2002 10:30pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1